CLP proposing motion for conference at a meeting this week calling for the Labour Party to oppose any updates to the GRA unless women's groups are consulted.

Twitter Ben then moved a motion on affiliation to Jewish Labour, on the basis that Jewish people should be listened to

Unless those Jewish people happen to be women who, because they follow their faith, that don’t want to share with male bodied people who demand access to female spaces. Those Jewish people can just get re-educated out of their ‘bigotry’.

You have heard about our motion not being approved, 11 to 9. A very interesting albeit very emotional discussion for some. Thanks to those of you who came & supported us. We will continue to fight this cause, not be beaten down by those who won’t let women say what they believe in.

Will there be any press on this? It's an interesting story.

Thanks for doing this, it can’t have been easy. Solidarity from another long standing party member who left over this madness and spoilt my vote last week.

Thank you Nettie! Thats all calming and sensible! :-)

Forgot to mention, Twitter Ben is a period poverty ambassador. Tell us all about periods oh educator. (Nnnnnn!!)

snapespeare so the motion was lost but a debate was had. Who knows what the abstensions think now? And even some of the beardy wokers. Most people haven't really thought about the topic so the arguments are often quite new.

As for Twitter Ben and affiliating to Jewish Labour, the timing looks really bad!

Courage comrades! It was great that you made it clear that everything is not done and dusted.

Huge shout out to the comrade who wrote the motion. She was very precise in moving it and spoke well. It wasn't an easy thing to do.

Thank you for trying to fight our corner snapespeare.

ok, so I didn't vote labour last week because of their fence sitting re brexit.
But, the gender shite is the reason I won't be voting for labour in the next election.
Cunts

And a few noticeable beardy woke bros who called women 'ciswomen' and said Transwomen are THE most oppressed and THE most at risk.

Fairly mixed. Some notably vocal male supporters of the motion, who spoke really well. I don't speak well on important things. I get short of breath.

I'm just so cross at the hypocrisy and micro aggressions. Twitter Ben then moved a motion on affiliation to Jewish Labour, on the basis that Jewish people should be listened to - and heard on anti-Semitism. Unlike women on women's spaces.

I look forwards to Labour repeating this with the rights of other groups.

Out of interest what was male/female divide on vote?

Sorry about that

Sad to hear that. Presumably it is only the kind of women with uteruses who get emotional? If only there was a word for them.

Oh and two abstentions (...) So it WAS really close and we continue trying to have the discussion.

Piss. Lost 9/11 with two abstentions and lots of micro aggressions about women bring ' emotional' and needing to be educated about LGBT issues.

Fair enough! (And unless he was also trans-age, he'd have had to lose two years somewhere too.) Politically motivated tribe, these McGowans.

It's tough because part of me thinks it's all a bit much for a 17 year old and I should be kind but then I remember that he's not being remotely kind to women and that this stuff is actually a real danger. So yeah. Sorry not sorry Ben. You clearly need to understand the magnitude of the damage you're actively driving.

Comments on that twitter thread seem considered and thoughtful. People don't agree. There seem to be no obvious counterarguments. What is that automatically a pile-one.

It all seems to boil down to TWAW - because men say so.

I do clearly remember being 17 and thinking I knew everything and I think 17 year olds SHOULD challenge things.
But I'm fucked if I'm going to be labelled a bigot for defending women's sex based rights. I joined the Labour party just after the miners strike. I went on pride as a teenager, before it was a corporate rainbow-fest. I matched against apartheid and stood outside South Africa House and I went on the Wapping picket line every Saturday and Wednesday for a year. I have a treasured gay son. I wish no harm on transgender people, I deny them no rights, other than the 'right' of access to places reserved for women to preserve womens rights based on their biological sex.

I do not deny the existence of transgender people, how can I when the activists are so loud? all I want is a respectful discussion in the context of women and girls having access to places without male bodied trans women - and for women to at least be allowed to discuss this without being labelled a bigot, terf, cis or 'short-haired.'

WHY must women move over for everyone else and then not complain?