[US] Male athlete wins women's NCAA national track and field championship

It's comments like Sergei's that help waverers see that there is no substance or logic to trans activism. That's what persuaded me, anyway.

So why is Caster banned and this is ok?

Trust people? Trust what? Noone's questioning whether this person is trans, has gender dysphoria, whatever. Regardless of whether they have dysphoria, they are male and should not be racing in the female category.

How disheartening for the women in that race - all that training , to be let down and denied a fair race by an absurd twisting of the system . It Alice in Wonderland. How the person could stand on the podium without being embarrassed by their own effrontery is beyond me but I suspect a deep sense of entitlement comes into play.

"We've got to trust people more".

Isn't this a bit like saying, let's disband the police entirely because deep down, if we just trusted criminals more, there'd be no crime.

We've got to trust people more

Why?

I mean i know you let the words flow and they sound nice and all, but honestly have you thought about what you are saying?

Why do you think distrust exists.... take a moment to really think.... It's because people are not, on the whole, trustworthy.

That's why we can't fully trust everyone we happen to come into contact with.

It's cheating even if it's technically allowed.

The same way that rape in marriage was absolutely not okay, even when it was 100% legal.

The rule makers are sexist.

Like emperor's new clothes with sporting bodies saying how its a level playing field and you're looking around and thinking but......just look, how can you not be seeing this? Or do you see and not care?

...there are plenty of circumstances where we have to give our belief and support in the first instance..

There are no circumstances in which I could believe in and support in any instance an XY athlete (i.e. male puberty) competing in XX sports.

Humans cannot change sex - whether or not Trump agrees is immaterial.

Another mediocre male athlete identifies into a category that magically gives them a leg up to win.

If only biological women had the mental strength to avoid sexual assault, the mental strength to avoid discrimination in the workplace, the mental strength to be paid the same as their male peers.

Tell you what sergeilvrov you feel free to be nice, make room, give up your spaces and your rights if you want but stop telling me or anyone else they have to do the same. See it’s like giving to charity, you get to choose how much you contribute for you, you don’t get to take my money out of my wallet and give it away, only I get to do that if I want to and in this case I don’t want to.

Nothing else to say...

It's pretty simple there should be no male athletes competing against female athletes in women's sports.

Iran has embraced the concept of sex changes and has put out sports teams full of males in women only
And these males are actually castrated. Unlike the western "transwomen".

(Not that I approve of castrating homosexual or gender incongruent men. I don't)

Also the constant references to Trump, the alt right etc from the TRA crowd are just you embarrassing yourselves at this point. Iran has embraced the concept of sex changes and has put out sports teams full of males in women only events, but radfems have the brains not to suggest this means the TWAW crowd are the ideological bedfellows of the Islamic Republic. You just sound about fourteen.

But what about the mediocre men? That would mean they wouldn't win anything. Can't have that. The solution is that women have to stand aside.

Telfer ranked 3rd, 6th and 7th in races at this meet
That's even more insulting for the women who lost to this male athlete

How on earth can this ever be deemed fair?! Why bother having separate events for men and women if not to make it fair? Just bung the whole lot in together in the same race so that the men always win!

Or suck it up

No

We've got to trust people more, there are plenty of circumstances where we have to give our belief and support in the first instance, and deal with fallout on the rare occasions it comes knowing we went in with good intentions.

What does this even mean? I can see that you're attempting to defend these cheats, but beyond that it's just word salad.

What
women should stop taking part in sports if guys beat them in women’s sport cos that’s where you are going with this Sergei

Ms Telfer ranked 3rd, 6th and 7th in races at this meet.

That doesn't mean what you want it to mean. It means a pretty mediocre male athlete can compete very strongly with the elite female athletes of that class. In other words, cheating.

We've got to trust people more, there are plenty of circumstances where we have to give our belief and support in the first instance

No. No sacrificing women's sport 'to be nice'.