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HereBeFuckery · 24/05/2019 21:53

matadornetwork.com/life/dear-straight-allies-please-dont-come-pride-youve-understood-6-things/

Posted by an acquaintance on Fb.

I want to post back 'Dear people-who-attend-Pride-who-consider-it-to-be-an-event-aimed-at-them (so as not to leave out any of the alphabet soup),
Please stop misgendering me as 'cis'. Please stop speaking to me as if I am a particularly oblivious tourist.
Please stop assuming I give a shiny shit about whatever your kink/fetish/orientation/presentation is.
Please take a second to notice that you mention ONLY your 'trans sisters', which kind of tells you something about the agenda here, doesn't it?
Please stop making out that gay/queer etc people can't hold hands in public. It's 2019. In the UK (where the Pride you are talking about is about to happen), this is now reasonably unremarkable, with some discrimination still, but we do not in this country (by and large) live in the age of The Love That Dare Not Speak Its Name.

Looking at those behaviours (name calling, mansplaining, arrogance, ignoring a whole group of people based on their sexual organs, exaggerating severity of discomfort), I am going to hazard a guess who wrote this (I didn't look at the byline.)

WIBU to post this?

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peachgreen · 24/05/2019 22:54

Over 11k hate crimes motivated by sexual orientation in 2017-18 and an ongoing upward trend over the past decade, so actually, yes, you very much are wrong.

www.gov.uk/government/statistics/hate-crime-england-and-wales-2017-to-2018

RiddleyW · 24/05/2019 22:40

@StrippingTheVelvet it's not 'wrong'. It's my experience. Yours is different. I'm sorry to hear that.

How is it your experience though? You have a husband - are you often out holding hands with your girlfriend on the side? You don’t have an experience of being gay.

FermatsTheorem · 24/05/2019 22:35

Are you straight, OP? Because if you are, your "it doesn't happen where I live" claim carries about as much weight as that old favourite some men trot out of "I don't believe the 1 in 4 statistic because none of my female friends have been raped" (newsflash: they have, they just don't feel comfortable telling you, and with good reason).

There is a point in any thread like this where, once all the other posters have told you to stop digging, it is in fact a good idea to stop digging before you surface in Melbourne.

StrippingTheVelvet · 24/05/2019 22:31

I'm actually really pissed off by that statement about holding hands. Marriage isn't even legal in a part of the UK. 4 members of our largest political party quit this week due to a lesbian representing them in the council elections. Fertility treatment is not available to lesbians on the NHS in NI either. What a cheek to say not being able to hold hands if you're gay is a lie. As if a culture tolerating the above is gay friendly . It might not be a bit of the UK that you're bothered about, but it's still there.

HereBeFuckery · 24/05/2019 22:30

@StrippingTheVelvet it's not 'wrong'. It's my experience. Yours is different. I'm sorry to hear that.

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StrippingTheVelvet · 24/05/2019 22:23

Guessing you don't spend too much time in my end of the UK. You are ignorant. Your assertion is wrong and shows your privilege.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 24/05/2019 22:03

There’s actual things in it to criticise, unlike some of your points... like:

The mostly transgender patrons of color at The Stonewall are credited with starting the LGBT civil rights movement.

This is not accurate, for instance.

RiddleyW · 24/05/2019 21:57

Please stop making out that gay/queer etc people can't hold hands in public

This is so dickish - and suggests you live in a bubble.

FermatsTheorem · 24/05/2019 21:56

Please stop making out that gay/queer etc people can't hold hands in public.

Please don't post this. I have lesbian friends who have been on the receiving end of homophobic abuse in recent times - it is not a distant memory sadly. They are also shit scared by the lurch towards right wing populism taking hold in many, many countries.

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