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Crap response from WEP

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teawamutu · 23/05/2019 19:34

I mailed them about two weeks ago saying I was thinking of joining, but would like them to clarify whether their priority was fighting for the rights of biological women and girls.

At long last, got this today: "
We fight for women's equality and we support the right of people to define their gender or reject gendered divisions as they choose."

Anyone want to help me come up with a question they can't sidestep?

Starter for ten: for campaigning purposes, do you class woman as biological sex or a feeling in a man's head?

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DpWm · 23/05/2019 20:16

Narrow it down to this statement

"We support the right of people to define their gender"

Ok. Do you mean you support any man at any time you define their gender as "woman" in every situation without critical thinking?

I agree sometimes it's only polite to allow preferred pronouns/use of new name etc and in most social settings it'd be fine to go along with self defined gender.

Do you also support a male bodied person who self defines as a woman to compete with women in sport? To take business awards/ grants/ jobs in politics set aside for women? To enter women's homeless shelters and prisons? To be treated as their preferred gender in every single situation with no thought given to women?
You must be aware by now, given the publicity of such questions, that it takes more than just a blanket statement if you are actually serious about "equality for women".

Please reply and let me know otherwise you will convince yet another person that your words "equality for women" are simply an empty lie.

JackyHolyoake · 23/05/2019 20:13

:Perhaps ask WEP this question

"How do you reconcile your position that "we support the right of people to define their gender or reject gendered divisions as they choose"

with UK law that defines biological sex as "a congruence of chromosomes, gonads and genitals" [Corbett V Corbett]

and with the Equality Act 2010, which defines the sexes as:

man: a male of any age
woman: a female of any age?

There is no reference to "gender" [or 'gender identity' or 'transgender' or 'gender non-conforming' in UK law.

DpWm · 23/05/2019 20:05

I'd say

"Thanks you've lost my interest right there."

AlwaysComingHome · 23/05/2019 19:47

Anyone want to help me come up with a question they can't sidestep

Ask them can they recommend a party that stands for women, as they are clearly not it?

JackyHolyoake · 23/05/2019 19:45

Tell WEP you were referring to sex not gender?

Original poster
teawamutu · 23/05/2019 19:40

I like it.

Honestly, I think I'm more annoyed by the lame attempt to avoid the issue. Feel kind of insulted.

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Daughterofmabel · 23/05/2019 19:38

What is the definition of a woman?