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Risk assessments regarding clothing shop changing rooms

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finnmcool · 23/05/2019 17:17

I'm bloody frustrated! I've phoned New Look, Topshop, John Lewis and Marks and Spencer asking for information about what risk assessments they did when they decided to allow males who self id as females into the changing rooms.

Not one of them could give me an answer, they're all getting back to me.
Marks and Spencer have to be highlighted for their aggressive stance though.
I was talked over, interrupted and told they aren't changing their policy. I was told that I can't even put a freedom of information request in, because their policy 'comes under business model'
This was a woman in the management team
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GLL, haven't got back to me yet, regarding their gym/swim changing room policy.
How is it not a breach of law to allow males into women's spaces without consent and risk assessing?
Sorry, I'm a lurker who occasionally comments, but I quietly fight our battles in my area.
Thank you if you've read my rant.

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finnmcool · 23/05/2019 17:45

Thank you genderfreelass none of my friends are interested, so, a lot of the time, I feel alone regarding this battle.

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finnmcool · 23/05/2019 17:43

loopy go for it, it would be nice to have another voice. Grin
The national safeguarding officer for GLL is called Muir FORREST.
I posted his initial responses on the feminism board.
I'm pretty sure it was under the title of GLL if that helps?

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BuzzShitbagBobbly · 23/05/2019 17:43

GLL for information about who insures them. So far, no response.

Their public liability insurance certificate should be displayed somewhere. I think(?) they are obliged to have it visible.

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finnmcool · 23/05/2019 17:40

jacky I attached that link to the email I sent GLL, no response.
I'll send it to the clothes shops.
I did challenge the clothes shops about female socialisation, male aggression and the fact their core customers are teenage girls and women and girls getting their bras fitted, being naked from the waist up.

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Genderfreelass · 23/05/2019 17:39

Well done OP!

I wonder if these stores will now see a rise in returns with women buying, trying at home and returning if not suitable? I don't think many high street stores can afford a drop in sales by women avoiding them.

Loopytiles · 23/05/2019 17:36

Yes, mine is GLL too.

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finnmcool · 23/05/2019 17:35

That's a good idea bickerin I did ask GLL for information about who insures them. So far, no response.
Thank you for your help and ideas.

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JackyHolyoake · 23/05/2019 17:32

finnmcool

I think you are doing fine, sister. Keep chipping away at it. Flowers

Send those corporate bodies this web page:

fairplayforwomen.com/changing_rooms/

Loopytiles · 23/05/2019 17:31

I should do this with my leisure centre, now has entirely unisex changing (cubicles) and DC can use facilities unsupervised from age 8.

BickerinBrattle · 23/05/2019 17:30

Ask if their liability insurers and risk management team are aware they’ve increased the likelihood that their female customers will become victims of crimes of exposure, voyeurism, and assault on their premises.

Ask what their doing to mitigate such risk,now that they’ve been informed of it.

Tell them you’re aware that having been informed of a risk, then failing to mitigate it, will increase their exposure to financial penalty when sued for damages.

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finnmcool · 23/05/2019 17:28

I don't know jacky I'm not half as clued up or articulate as you all are.
That's why I was asking for evidence of risk assessments. I approached a lot of the big companies last year and was basically told to bugger off.

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finnmcool · 23/05/2019 17:26

Thanks Jo 😁

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JackyHolyoake · 23/05/2019 17:24

I'm wondering if there is a legal position that can be taken against these corporate bodies given they are facilitating any sexual offences that occur on their premises. A corporate body is a 'person' in law, is it not?

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JoMumsnet · 23/05/2019 17:23

@finnmcool

Rooms, not roo. S 😁

We've edited the title of your thread now, OP.

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finnmcool · 23/05/2019 17:18

Rooms, not roo. S 😁

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