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DV Select Committee contributor wants to browse adult sites on train wifi

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BrightonReSisters · 23/05/2019 14:43

By now you've probably all seen, or at least heard about, Karen Ingala Smith's wonderful contribution to the Women & Equalities Select Committee yesterday. If not, you can see it here:

parliamentlive.tv/event/index/0d07ff13-636e-4b51-a946-2877e583dc4c

You may NOT have seen this re one of the other contributors, Diana James. Diana works with refuges in the south West. On the train to the Select Committee yesterday, Diana wanted to shop online for sex toys. Diana wasn't happy that GWR blocked the online sex toy shop from their WiFi, due to the adult nature of their products. We know this because Diana publicly tweeted to GWR to complain.

That Diana thinks it appropriate to visit an adult site on a public train is disturbing. That Diana thinks it's a good idea to broadcast this publicly is odd. That Diana thought GWR would bow down to Diana's demand to access adult content on their WiFi is downright bizarre.

Diana was invited to give evidence about provision of services for survivors of domestic violence and that makes behaviour even more worrying than if we were talking about a teenage boy or suited commuter.

Diana can of course do as Diana pleases within the bounds of the law. That said, this is a red flag.

When someone in Diana's position thinks this kind of behaviour is appropriate we must ask questions. The first question is probably the most obvious: why ask a this person, with questionable boundaries, to speak for vulnerable abuse survivors?

It's a small mercy that at least GWR seem to have their heads screwed on.

DV Select Committee contributor wants to browse adult sites on train wifi
DV Select Committee contributor wants to browse adult sites on train wifi
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AnyFucker · 24/05/2019 18:33

I started off fuming about the content of this thread but bloody hell I love the responses here

JackyHolyoake · 24/05/2019 17:50

I'd say James might not be a reliable person to ask about what's best for women.

Exactly so ... not one autogynephilic male is a reliable person to ask about what is best for women.

Beyond that, not one trans lobbyist or activist is a reliable organisation / person to ask about what is best for women.

The only people who are reliable people to ask about what is best for women is women.

Barracker · 24/05/2019 17:46

Now, see, I'm the same sex as Ingala-Smith, and the opposite sex from James and I've never once thought to browse an adult sex toy website using train WiFi.
I can't help but think that such inappropriate behaviour is indicative of the opposite sex to me, and not my own sex.
It seems like a person of that sex and that predilection may not be best suited to contribute opinion to issues concerning safeguarding of women and girls.
I'd say James might not be a reliable person to ask about what's best for women.

nauticant · 24/05/2019 17:44

Who the hell NEEDS to browse sex toy sites on a train? Can’t it wait?

Perhaps the excitement of the impending validation of a Select Committee appearance was overwhelming and they just couldn't help themselves.

BrightonReSisters · 24/05/2019 17:42

@sexpaygap unfortunate that we have screenshots, eh?! Grin

@ArcheryAnnie funny that, isn't it? If women are so terribly dangerous, why do some men so desperately want to get into our spaces? Why aren't they campaigning for their own spaces?*

*we know why

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jay55 · 24/05/2019 17:36

Makes me want to fund a new shelter in Cornwall.

Well done GWR for being clear and robust in response.

BackOnceAgainWithABurnerEmail · 24/05/2019 17:35

Diana has deleted that tweet, but the GWR response stands. Must be one if the most liked customer services tweets - over 200 likes.

KarenTheCashRegister · 24/05/2019 17:31

It's all attention though, isn't it? Why would anyone complain about that, then air their grievance on Twitter, unless they enjoyed the fact that they'd garner satisfying dollops of shock/horror?

It is about attention seeking but it’s also about finding where society’s boundaries are. How far they can push their sexual fetishes on to the wider world. Some AGPs also get a huge kick out of making other people uncomfortable- a true display of dominance.

theOtherPamAyres · 24/05/2019 17:25

To be invited to give evidence to the Select Committee must have been seen as the Ultimate Validation.

We can imagine the overwhelming sense of triumph, ecstasy and power coursing through the veins en route to Westminster. Is it any wonder that the tension and excitement could only be satisfied by perusing women's sex toys and broadcasting your kink online? Said no woman ever.

Funnily enough, KIS had mentioned to the Select Committee, in passing, that a proportion of trans needed to be excluded because of their fetishes around female victimhood.

I feel concerned for DV survivors in Cornwall (where DJ volunteers).

AnyFucker · 24/05/2019 16:55

Glad this person was slapped right back down into place. Worrying lack of boundaries considering the vulnerable group they work with.

WhatTheWatersShowedMe · 24/05/2019 16:50

Why? Why are TRAs so unfailingly gross?

Outanabout · 24/05/2019 15:58

I wonder if they were expecting a grovelling apology and widespread admiration for how brave they were being, standing up for all women's right to browse for sex toys on the train? 😂

MinesaBottle · 24/05/2019 13:59

Who the hell NEEDS to browse sex toy sites on a train? Can’t it wait? Unless it’s being done to intimidate or publicly indulge a fetish, which as we all know never happens...

JessicaWakefieldSV · 24/05/2019 11:01

Diana actually deleted that tweet?? Shame about the screenshots huh Diana.

We see you.

Upzadaizy · 24/05/2019 10:55

I'm watching it now while doing boring paperwork.

Karen Ingala-Smith is a legend - she is awesome in her clarity and knowledge.

Not got to the TW evidence yet ...

ArcheryAnnie · 23/05/2019 23:11

I've just watched the parliament.tv evidence from Diane James and the other two witnesses. James seems to have spent a lot of time in evidence-giving taking pains to portray lesbians as dangerous and women as violent. I see you, Diana James.

(And yes, eeeew to accessing porn sites on the train. James is a creep, and is flaunting the fact that there are no sanctions to James being a creep.)

hoteltango · 23/05/2019 23:07

Well, I've tweeted support for Andy. And mentioned that the Select Committee was apparently about domestic violence. My tweet could either float off into the aether, or bring down the wrath of the TRAs.

SexPayGap · 23/05/2019 22:46

All the other responses still there though

mobile.twitter.com/GWRHelp/status/1131225586226085896

SexPayGap · 23/05/2019 22:34

The tweet appears to have been deleted.
What a wanker.

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 23/05/2019 22:10

Funny how Diana missed out the word erotic in that tweet Hmm
Fair play to Andy for the response.

Outanabout · 23/05/2019 22:03

It's all attention though, isn't it? Why would anyone complain about that, then air their grievance on Twitter, unless they enjoyed the fact that they'd garner satisfying dollops of shock/horror?

Upzadaizy · 23/05/2019 20:54

Oh dear, someone going to great lengths to show how well they do womaning.

BrightonReSisters · 23/05/2019 20:24

@michelleoftheresistance there are a lot overworked shockometres down here in Brighton, and yet even now we occasionally manage to be surprised!

If anyone has a minute to spare, you can raise your concerns with Maria Miller by emailing [email protected]

And just in case you're reading this: Andy, if you're ever in Brighton, the ReSisters would love to buy you a pint

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AlwaysComingHome · 23/05/2019 20:10

Some trains don’t even have recharging ports for dildos.

It’s shocking, I say, just shocking.

TimeLady · 23/05/2019 19:56

Noticeable difference in the no. of likes between the two tweets too. Well done, Andy.

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