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Mermaids on twitter

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HeyDuggeesCakeBadge · 22/05/2019 09:10

Has mermaids closed their twitter account or been suspended? I can't find it and I definitely haven't been blocked.

I'm wondering whether the whole Phoebe Waller-Bridge has forced them to be quiet for a bit?

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ChattyLion · 23/05/2019 08:30

Agree PWB is saying the exact opposite of what the Mermaids approach would be.

Perhaps PWB could ask (like we are all doing) what the evidence is that distressed young women benefit more from the medical, hormonal and surgical life long effects than they do from talking therapies alone at the time that they present for help?

What it is evidence that invasive physical transition resolves their dysphoria at all and resolves the other co-existing mental and physical problems that they may have (including all the problems brought on by transition itself).

If there is evidence to make social and physical ‘transition’ more effective than talking therapies alone, what is the evidence that the benefit holds up over time?

Because otherwise we shouldn’t be offering permanent invasive radically life altering interventions to kids. If we have any doubts whatsoever.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 23/05/2019 08:23

Just flipping through the thread. That as is spectacularly dumb ‘am I a boy or a girl - maybe I’m neither?’. Sex is generally pretty obvious. Are they trying to recruit babies now? How does that work?

Maybe it should have been ‘am I girly or boyish? Who gives a flying fuck? Oi, looneys, leave them kids alone!’

LizzieSiddal · 23/05/2019 08:20

Sorry only just been able to read the full Mermaids thread.
Does that young person realise that once Mermaids get involved, the chances of someone “changing their minds”, is very small. They don’t subscribe at all to “watch and wait”.

ChattyLion · 23/05/2019 08:17

Thank you Red

LizzieSiddal · 23/05/2019 08:12

FWB was saying exactly the opposite to what Mermaids would like her to say, but they manage to twist her words. Yet again reality, they present to children, is distorted.

They are a fucking disgrace.

NonHypotheticalLurkingParent · 23/05/2019 07:35

Thank you Red for putting my feelings into words!

HandsOffMyRights · 23/05/2019 07:29

Excellent post Red

pancaketosser · 23/05/2019 07:28

It's strange, mermaids say there was such an 'amazing response' to the twitter thread that they've deleted the whole thread and put it into a blog instead.

I suppose the word 'amazing' can mean whatever mermaids want it to though.

CarolDanvers · 23/05/2019 07:13

Thirty bottles of sprite in glass bottles arriving here today from Amazon @RubberTreePlant. It's a big treat for my children, who prefer glass bottled pop, but I usually say no as too expensive,

How on earth did Mermaids think they'd get away with this? Shock

KatvonHostileExtremist · 23/05/2019 06:50

I thought it gave a very different impression when they published young person's tweets as a blog, without the images.

Gender nonconformity is pretty normal. Giving children time to grow up in body and mind is vital.

I wonder, given the widespread condemnation of hormone blockers, and their recent bullying tactics failures, if they will start to back off the medical route. A bit. Please God.

RubberTreePlant · 23/05/2019 04:56

Amazon are delivering me 72tunnocks tea cakes today. True story.

RedToothBrush · 23/05/2019 04:44

Cross sex hormones take IQ points off children. All the drugs and surgery being pushed to children have not been peer reviewed for long term physical or mental health effects. Indeed from what research there is, that they might actually be really psychologically damaging to young women and we do know that they effectively sterilise children. We also know that Mermaids have promoted and pushed a doctor who has been discipline for unethical conduct after they were found guilty.

But sure parents are 'unsupportive' of their children if they say they are trans for asking questions about ethics, effectiveness and safeguarding. Just minor things that Mermaids seem to have a problem understanding.

Parents should just smile and go 'sure experiment on my 13 year old child. I'm sure that will make them happy if the findings of the experiment don't turn out so good.' I understand that my child is obviously about to top themselves if I don't because Mermaids keeps promoting the idea (despite it being regarded as dangerous thing to do by anti suicide charities, because suicide is a social contagion especially in young and vulnerable people)

Asking responsible and difficult questions is pure evil and 'TERFs' should be burnt at the stake for challenging unquestioning dogma. They can't handle trans ideology because their pink brains are too inferior. They should stick to forums which do good pink things like coo at babies and share recipes. Mummies should be nice at all times and coddle their children and pander to everything they say cos parenting is nice and easy like like. Only 'bad mummies' say to their children that life is a bit more complicated than that and perhaps question whether something else is going on, what with all this strange unexplained co-morbidity going on in children who identity as trans.

Honestly it's almost as if Mermaids are an anti research, anti intellectual, anti critical oversight organisation who trot out tropes designed to unscrupulously appeal to the emotions and deliberately encourage people to abuse mothers and to try to hold them hostage to emotional blackmail, by suggesting that if they don't tow the approved line they are evil, bad parents who don't care about their children. Whilst they carry on and sacrifice their own kids upon the altar of 'progressiveness' as true believers.

Nothing says 'good parenting' like signing your kid up to a lifetime's subscription to Webberely's clinic when the NHS have turned you down and suggested a more watchful, slower and patient approach after all. It's worth a bumper amount of woke points for being stunning and brave in the face of pure oppression from ethics and accountability.

You don't get those from challenging gender stereotypes and asking why you need surgery and medication for playing with 'the wrong toys' from age three.

If Mermaids were a responsible organisation none of this would be being raised as a concern. The Times wouldn't be holding red bunting parties for them.

FloralBunting · 22/05/2019 23:35

Wow. Mermaids being grossly misleading and unethical to promote their twisted worldview, eh? #GriftersGonnaGrift

moonrises · 22/05/2019 23:26

I have a MRI in a few weeks on my pesky brain. I'll tell them not to bother looking at what they are needing to monitor and just to establish that I do for sure have a girly brain.

DontBuyANewMumCashmere · 22/05/2019 23:25

Here's the archived thread from Mermaids

HandsOffMyRights · 22/05/2019 23:15

so good I shared it twice

HandsOffMyRights · 22/05/2019 23:14

Here

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HandsOffMyRights · 22/05/2019 23:14

Oh, Mermaids' latest ad. Another for the pinned thread.
Thanks Fortnite. If you hadn't tried to derail the thread I msy have forgotten to share this latest gem:

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FannyCann · 22/05/2019 23:12

OK here is a link to twitter thread showing the mermaids tweets. They used pictures of PWB to illustrate the words of a trans girl. I hope PWB hauls them over the coals for it.

twitter.com/blablafishcakes/status/1130967377313710080?s=21

HandsOffMyRights · 22/05/2019 23:08

I think Fortnite's mother told them it was bed time.

OVAgroundWOMBlingfree · 22/05/2019 23:04

How is talking about biology transphobic, I'm not harassing actual trans people, as one of my mates is trans. Talk to an actual gender therapist and they'll tell you about the difference between brains and everything else

Snort.

I tell you what go on Twitter and discuss biology and see how long it takes before saying “transgender people are still biologically their birth gender” gets you shouts of TERF and DIE IN A GREASE FIRE. Because they believe to opposite to that.

DontBuyANewMumCashmere · 22/05/2019 23:02

Mermaids used the words of a young trans identifying female and illustrated it with loads of pics of PWB as though she had endorsed the thread, or these were her sentiments.
Really odd.

They deleted it quite quickly but it's been archived somewhere.

This non mermaid thread has some screenshots

They made it into a blog on the Mermaids website too.

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 22/05/2019 22:56

BiologyNotBigotry I had a quick look at their twitter page when this post when up, I haven't read the PWB piece yet but they had pictures of her with tweets talking about being trans and having supportive parents. The pictures made it look like PWB had endorsed Mermaids and tweeted about her story on their page but it wasn't her and doesn't look like they asked for permission to use the photos-there was a good few used. I think that's what happened unless there's more I didn't catch?

Jellybabiesarebabies · 22/05/2019 22:51

Sometimes mermaids have pitchforks too. I can prove it. See...

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HandsOffMyRights · 22/05/2019 22:50

Perhaps we could start a pinned thread: 'What Mermaids Did Next'

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