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Spoiled ballots?

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Binglebong · 20/05/2019 14:18

As far as I can see there is no point to the election on Thursday - the MEPs will have nothing to do wish I'd stood. So I am seriously considering using it as an opportunity to spoil my ballot with Woman - Adult Human Female.

Any thoughts?

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BuzzShitbagBobbly · 21/05/2019 13:45

It's too late for me (postal already posted), but does this work?:

Correctly vote for but in the row for that candidate's name write WOMEN ARE ADULT HUMAN FEMALES.

So vote is not spoiled per se, but has to be manually confirmed that your intention was clear - and this the is the paper that candidates can look at if they want.

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 21/05/2019 13:37

Spoiling your ballot may seem attractive, but it never serves any purpose. Nobody sees it except for the poor workers at the polling booth. And they just briefly glance at it and put it into the "spoilt" pile , which is bundled up and never looked at again.

If I spoil my ballot paper it won't be so that it can be seen. It will be so that it can be counted.

The number of spoiled ballots is recorded and reported by the returning officer, which is why it is a legitimate form of protest.

nauticant · 21/05/2019 11:54

I can't act in a way that will work to assist the Brexit party and their fellow travellers. I'm not even particularly fixed on Remain but I know what I can't support, even by omission.

Otherwise if the vote is for something having a defined time limit that can be voted on again in the future, I'll be TWATW-ing and AHF-ing on my ballot papers all the way.

BishopBrennansArse · 21/05/2019 11:50

I'm sorry but it's too important. You can bet the pro Brexit Tommeh and Nige followers will vote so I'm holding my nose and voting tactically to ensure there are as many remain MEPs in my area as possible.

sorenipples · 21/05/2019 11:44

I'm planning on voting change uk as I believe they haven't come out as anti female, have one opeby gender critical candidate (need to check this hasn't changed ) and represent remain. I'm hopeful that regardless of how seats are allocated the percentage clear remain vs clear leave votes cast may be considered indicative of public opinion (so may shape policy on a future people's vote etc.).

Mner2019 · 21/05/2019 11:29

I think I will vote Change UK. They haven't come out yet as being anti-women have they?

Birdie6 · 21/05/2019 10:12

Spoiling your ballot may seem attractive, but it never serves any purpose. Nobody sees it except for the poor workers at the polling booth. And they just briefly glance at it and put it into the "spoilt" pile , which is bundled up and never looked at again.

I regularly work at polling booths and beleive me, we are the only people who see the spoilt ballots and we couldn't care less what is written on them. We have a very long day, and all we want to do is to get things done and go home to bed. Your comments on your ballot paper will never be seen by those you are aiming at. You'd be better off writing a letter .

Justhadathought · 21/05/2019 09:50

...anyway, on this occasion i'll be voting Change UK - because I want a change.

Justhadathought · 21/05/2019 09:50

This action of spoiling ballot papers is being encouraged by the far right

Since I don't really read any far right material, I wouldn't know about that.
I make my own mind up. Some things are even more important than remain or leave the EU. And one of those things is freedom of conscience.

Justhadathought · 21/05/2019 09:46

This is too important an election for faux protests

Who are you to decide what is faux and what is genuine or real?
You make your own decision and others will make theirs.
None of us here need to be told about the struggle for the vote; but manipulating people into voting one way or another - and against their feelings or instinct, is certainly not in the spirit of democracy.

Turning up on the day and having your name ticked off is quite enough to show respect. I, for one, will never be told what or who to vote for.

Genderfreelass · 21/05/2019 09:05

I've already emailed various parties asking whether they would reject self-id if it's put through the EU.

Spoiling ballots has always been a legitimate protest vote. In some countries voting is compulsory but in the UK it is optional. I think it 8s better to turn up and spoil your ballot rather than not go at all. A large number of spoilt votes may not be individually read but will be counted and notice taken - as it wax at the local elections.

I think the Brexit party and change will get a lot of votes as Brent is the main issue in these elections.

bettybeans · 20/05/2019 22:49

I won't be spoiling my vote but I will be sending an email on voting day to my chosen party (and cc individual elected members for my area) to let them know that I'm sticking with them this time but that's only because I'm giving them a chance to sort out this ridiculous issue with infringement on sex based rights. I won't be doing it again if they fail to listen to the ever louder voices of women and girls.

robinsarebins · 20/05/2019 22:49

I was thinking of spoiling my ballot but after reading this thread I will vote for a remain party this time.
Roll on the general election when I will be writing 'suck a lady dick, woman= adult human female'

woman19 · 20/05/2019 22:43

Spoiling a ballot paper is green lighting them.

This is too important an election for faux protests.

Voting is a very hard one and recent privilege for women particularly.

Millions of EU/UK women have been deliberately disenfranchised and desperate to vote.

This action of spoiling ballot papers is being encouraged by the far right.

Justhadathought · 20/05/2019 22:22

is pissing on the graves of the sufragettes

Hyperbole and emotional blackmail just don't cut it, I'm afraid. People should turn up ( out of respect to those that have gone before) and vote, or spoil, as they feel appropriate or meaningful for themselves.

Justhadathought · 20/05/2019 22:19

I spoiled my ballot in the recent local elections, as did 30,000+ other people throughout the country. And I'll do it again, until the time when I can vote with heart again.

In the forthcoming euro-elections I think I'm going to vote for Change UK - if they are on the ballot that is. I do, think, however, that the pro remain vote is going to be seriously split - and the turn-out extremely low. In my constituency, at the local elections, the turn-out was just 27.5%, and I suspect on Thursday it will be even lower.

effiesgoldwig · 20/05/2019 22:13

Please vote. We have had flyers through our door from Tommy Robinson and you can guarantee his voters will be out in force. If only to stop the fascist far right for claiming they represent the will of the people, use your vote.

Binglebong · 20/05/2019 21:52

there were a lot of images of spoilt ballots
Why would the bbc have done that? hmm What could they have been encouraging?

Sometimes a news story is...a news story. And all the media were covering it so if they all had an agenda, and given bias is claimed in so many different directions, I think they pretty much cancel each other out.

I do not agree with any of the political parties. A protest vote requires not only the negative of voting against a party but a positive of voting for. And as the monster raving lunatics no longer appear to be in action the only way to make it clear that you are voting against all of the parties is a spoilt ballot.

And if you're going to spoil it at least make it clear why.

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woman19 · 20/05/2019 21:36

I'm in the same boat wrt Greens who have a serious problem with anti semitic previous too. But Politics is the art of the possible.

One spoilt paper could green light another bp man as an MEP to join with the other tiny motley crew of right wing men in the EU parliament.

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 20/05/2019 21:18

The recommendation in the East’s of England is to vote for the Green Party.

Currently weighing up spoiling my paper vs voting green. What a mess.

woman19 · 20/05/2019 21:10

there were a lot of images of spoilt ballots
Why would the bbc have done that? Hmm What could they have been encouraging?

Sorry, but spoiling a ballot paper for an election like this, with actual sexist and racist fascists standing for election is pissing on the graves of the sufragettes, not to mention the women and men who made sure we've had 70 years of relative peace and human rights in the EU.

RandomlyChosenName · 20/05/2019 21:05

Spoilt ballot papers get put in a pile with blank papers and ones where someone has drawn a smiley face instead of a cross in the box and ones where someone’s voting intention is not crystal clear (and cross or a tick in one box).

They are then sorted and the ones which look like the person intended to vote for one party, but didn’t just cross or tick are shown to the candidates to decide whether they will accept them as a vote or not.

So if you put your cross in a box next to your chosen candidate and wrote on the paper as well, I think this would mean that the candidates would look at (and read if it was short) your ballot paper and decide if it counted as a vote. What you wrote could cause the candidates not to accept it though.

dreichuplands · 20/05/2019 21:03

This is a pretty important vote.
Vote a remain party if you want to remain.
Brexit Party if you want a hard leave.
Or maybe Labour if you think you can do both at the same time!
Brexit is still a huge unresolved issue and this is a chance to express your view whatever it is.

Binglebong · 20/05/2019 20:52

And upsetting poor delicate little TRAs is always a plus. Grin

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Binglebong · 20/05/2019 20:52

Normally I don't agree with spoiling a ballot, as people have said who notices? But at the last election there were a lot of images of spoilt ballots (showing how they were spoilt) and the numbers were recorded. So for once they did get seen and can make a difference.

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