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Ruth Hunt - ‘men will always rape women’

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KatyaZamolodchikova · 19/05/2019 12:17

Article in the Guardian. As much as the whole this is concerning the bit that jumps out at me is ‘men will always rape women’,

Oh? That’s ok then. Let’s not bother trying to change or prevent it then, let’s just make it a bloody free for all. Crack on men, rape away 🙄

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TeaForDad · 19/05/2019 13:52

Rape, theft, murder and violence will always be going on.

It's amazing that as a society its reigned in so much on a worldwide/ historical level

AlwaysComingHome · 19/05/2019 13:50

The success of an organisation isn’t how much it has grown but how much it has made itself no longer necessary.

If Stonewall announced that, having attained full rights for homosexuals in the UK, it felt it’s job was done, that would be a success.

WeWantJustice · 19/05/2019 13:26

I guess men will always rape children as well, so we can just do away with DBS requirements. As Ruth Hunt is not arguing.

I don't know whether to feel sorry for her because of her hugely strong internalised misogyny, or to feel total contempt for her Aunt Lydia-like willingness to thrown women under the bus.

ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 19/05/2019 13:21

The question over whether gender self-identification “will lead to men raping women” is, she says, the wrong one. “Men are always going to rape women. The question should be: ‘Will the increase in gender fluidity increase the risk of men masquerading as women?’ Let’s talk about that. Don’t talk to me about self-ID – I’ve spent my life being told I’m not woman enough. It’s about treating people as they want to be treated, and when it causes no disadvantage to me whatsoever, who am I to challenge it?

That reads to me as if she doesn't believe that self id will.have any impact on her so she's happy to support it. She doesn't think she the sort of woman or girl that will be disadvantaged or at risk of "men masquerading as women". She cares more about the advantages trans ideology can do for her, than the disadvantages it gives to other women.

EmpressLesbianInChair · 19/05/2019 13:00

Exactly ohfuckoffalready. She's a businesswoman. Stonewall is a business

She’s a hypocrite & a traitor who sold lesbians out for her own benefit.

Floisme · 19/05/2019 12:58

.. in her five years in the job, Stonewall has more than doubled in size, expanding from 75 to 160 staff, while its income has grown from £5.4m to £8.7m.
This is her calling card. GC women might not be impressed but a lot of charities are in the mother of all fights for funding and will sit up and notice.
Most of us have to draw up a CV when we need a new job - must be nice when you can get the Guardian to write an article about you instead.

tobee · 19/05/2019 12:54

Exactly ohfuckoffalready. She's a businesswoman. Stonewall is a business. Because it is a charity people think it free from the "nastier" aspects of business. It's just a powerful organisation that has money to dominate and push its political agenda.

JackyHolyoake · 19/05/2019 12:53

Never forget that Stonewall, under Hunt's direction, actively campaigned to obliterate the single sex exemptions from the Equality Act 2010:

womansplaceuk.org/references-to-removal-of-single-sex-exemptions/

ohfuckoffalready · 19/05/2019 12:52

She's one of the drivers of this whole movement, and as such she should be held accountable for every single young lesbian out there who needed her support, and instead have been gaslighted into sex with a male person, and focusing on the needs of males.

I hope she faces the full understanding of this one day and that it burns her inside.

I doubt she will though, she seems to be spectacularly unpleasant and self-centred. Those types never seem to suffer the burden of thinking or consciences.

ChattyLion · 19/05/2019 12:52

So why is she fine with all males being allowed to be in female spaces on their own say-so?

Yes, exactly. Who gives a fuck about safety, privacy and dignity for women, eh?

Badgerthebodger · 19/05/2019 12:44

She is annoyed by the “intellectual stupidity” of the GC argument? Really? She’s like all the other fucking eejits proclaiming on this subject - she’s not fucking read it properly, has she. I find it utterly enraging that she, in such an influential position, has not even bothered to give GC arguments even the most cursory glance. Nope. No debate, fuck off, I don’t even want to try and understand, lalalala I’m not listening.

We see you Ruth. We know that your career has been built on the backs of the women and girls you threw under a bus without a second thought. Presumably she, as a lesbian, would be just fine with some lovely lady penis in her bed? Hmm

ohfuckoffalready · 19/05/2019 12:43

"for proof, she points out that in her five years in the job, Stonewall has more than doubled in size, expanding from 75 to 160 staff, while its income has grown from £5.4m to £8.7m. “

Also ... that's not proof that you're doing a good thing! Confused There's a lot of bad and misguided money out there.

The drugs and arms trades are probably doing roaringly well, that doesn't mean they're on a moral high ground.

Floisme · 19/05/2019 12:43

I guess people are always going to commit murder too so why bother having laws against it?

ohfuckoffalready · 19/05/2019 12:39

So why is she fine with all males being allowed to be in female spaces on their own say-so?

ThePerturbedPenguin · 19/05/2019 12:31

I haven’t read the article but the statement generally is true isn’t it? Ultimately there will always be these men. Through education about consent and bringing up our men better, we can hope to do better but ultimately you can’t control everyone’s upbringings and motivations therefore you’ll never completely stop it.

Freespeecher · 19/05/2019 12:28

??? Not content with pissing off Lesbians and GC Feminists Hunt decides to open a second front? (Maybe a third, I'm losing count).

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