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Times article - Fur flies over ‘Brazilian’ wax for trans woman Jessica Yaniv

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EweSurname · 19/05/2019 07:03

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fur-flies-over-brazilian-wax-for-trans-woman-jessica-yaniv-gm7f9mltx

Yaniv has made mainstream media publication and isn't anonymous in this one!

Amazing that it discusses how Yaniv was the reason Meghan Murphy was banned.

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/05/2019 00:16

Well if they are going for the beauty pageant they will need some waxing done for the swimsuit round surely?

ImGenderfree · 21/05/2019 21:18

Wonder if The Times has a follow up story planned... they’ve done this before with the police response to ‘hate’ speech and the followed up with who is doing the training.

AlwaysComingHome · 21/05/2019 20:12

I think MN grants an exception where somebody identifying as female outraged sensibilities. If Yaniv doesn’t qualify, who does?

Michelleoftheresistance · 21/05/2019 20:06

Sigh. That was not intentional misgendering, much as I resent forced speech against belief and reality - that was plain mistake HQ, sorry, I'm usually very careful to use names only as I don't want to make moderating this forum harder for you.

In my defence it's damn confusing. The whole thing is a mindfuck, and sometimes I forget to twist my thoughts and language through the required hoops. Especially when it's someone using very male pattern behaviour to harass women, and the reality of what is going on is so very, very obvious.

pepperpot99 · 21/05/2019 18:23

I prefer the good old fashioned razor.....Grin

stillathing · 21/05/2019 18:18

I'd do it if I was allowed to use veet instead Grin

Birdsfoottrefoil · 21/05/2019 18:15

pepperpot he doesn’t actually want them waxed...

pepperpot99 · 21/05/2019 18:12

The answer is for every single female beauty therapist to offer to wax Yaniv's cock and balls willingly and with enthusiasm. I wonder what they will do then? poor old thing Grin.

Me please - I'll do it!!

pepperpot99 · 21/05/2019 18:10

Yes Michelloftheresistance exactly - Yaniv is only interested on having their cock and balls handled by a woman who doesn't want to - all the women who were willing were turned down. Clearly Yaniv has a sexually predatory agenda yes? force women to touch male genitals - this is a real step forward in gender equality.

BTW you can expect your post to be deleted, as mine were, for daring to use the pronoun 'he'.

Michelleoftheresistance · 21/05/2019 16:56

Trouble is he doesn't want it done by a woman who wants to do it and is qualified to. No fun in that.

He wants to punish women who have boundaries.

Sicario · 21/05/2019 09:43

I will take one for the team by offering to do his intimate wax. (Snaps on marigolds and super-heats a bucket of wax...)

AlunWynsKnee · 21/05/2019 00:04

Would JY sue if someone ripped the skin off their lady parts? How would that work? Presumably they would have to display pictures of their damaged lady parts with medical evidence of that. Would insurance pay out? Either the insurance is for biological parts or self declared parts.

allmywhat · 20/05/2019 23:53

It can't possibly be compulsory for women to have to train in and provide male genital waxing as well as female genital waxing

This is precisely what Morgane Ogre was advocating for when they adopted JY as a pet cause. Ogre has since recanted their support for Yaniv, after calling up some of Yaniv's young female victims and recording conversations with them.

allmywhat · 20/05/2019 23:49

Insisting it's some kind of "right" to have your balls waxed because you're a woman is not mutually exclusive with, at the same time, using your bizarre philosophy to scam people.

I think it's all tied together by the need to humiliate and control women. (I don't think this drive is exclusive to Yaniv though Yaniv is pretty much the Platonic form of it.)

I have to wonder if there's some sick kind of pleasure being derived in being so repugnant on every dimension, it must increase the thrill entailed in forcing women to swallow down their disgust and "accept" JY as a woman.

AlwaysComingHome · 20/05/2019 20:55

That's not a creepy photograph. That's Jessica's own photograph from their crowdfunding page for their Beauty Pageant Entry.

They’re not mutually exclusive.

pepperpot99 · 20/05/2019 20:37

Jessica is in with a real chance. Stunna.

OrchidInTheSun · 20/05/2019 17:23

www.gofundme.com/f/jessica-for-miss-bc

Jessica has raised enough for an entry fee plus $50. I would imagine that if JY fails to raise enough to cover all the other expenses that they won't enter.

notatwork · 20/05/2019 17:19

That's not a creepy photograph. That's Jessica's own photograph from their crowdfunding page for their Beauty Pageant Entry.

theOtherPamAyres · 20/05/2019 16:01

How very subtle.

The name is placed in the public domain. There's a creepy photograph. Mentions that it's not thought that Y has had genital surgery and Y required a brazilian wax to the genital area. Now suing beauticians for refusing to accept a booking. .

Readers don't need much more to make the contrast between
Meghan Murphy's position and Y's.

FleetsumNJetsum · 20/05/2019 10:28

An important point with the ball-waxing-human-rights-complaint is that Yaniv only followed up and threatened women who said "no" to the request. Salons that were willing to do the treatment were ignored. Yaniv never wanted the Brazilian, it was always all about the money.

MrsSnippyPants · 20/05/2019 09:31

The comments are fantasttic, anyone who reads them cannot fail to be made aware of Yaniv's proclivities. Bravo to The Times for allowing them to stand (so far).....

ChristinaBB · 20/05/2019 01:28

The article omits so many very important facts re Yaniv and his apparent ‘interests’.
Fortunately a great many of the commentators seem to be aware of them and have very helpfully posted them.

I wonder how long it will be until / if they are deleted?

quixote9 · 19/05/2019 23:07

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KatvonHostileExtremist · 19/05/2019 17:22

Fekko Grin

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 19/05/2019 13:49

Ma’amsNet!

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