Dr Mike Webberley suspended

Another, possibly more apt, analogy would be with doctors supplying slimming pills to anorexics. I’m sure many would be ‘satisfied’ with that service.

Yes, that is pretty much the same thing. Though of course, we aren't meant to mention that gender dysphoria is a mental illness, much the same as anorexia is.

And whats up with the assumption that if parents are against giving dangerous drugs to their kids, that means they have no experience of gender dysphoria? As if all parents of trans kids must agree that giving out hormones or whatever left right and centre is good for the children. Its not. Especially given the fact that when left alone instead of medicalised and such, the huge majority of kids grow out of the dysphoria, though if shoved on blockers, 100% go onto transition in adulthood.

Sorry am mad busy so have only scanned the thread. I don't think this bit of research has been posted yet.

Another business connected to the Webberleys was Dr Matt Ltd.

Here is the CQC report:

www.cqc.org.uk/sites/default/files/new_reports/AAAG2254.pdf

Here is a relevant BBC news article:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-39520785

CQC summary:

Practice policies were available but staff had no awareness of the policies. For example, the adult safeguarding policy.

Risks to patients were not appropriately assessed or managed. For example, we found patients being prescribed large quantities of inhalers for the treatment of respiratory disease but there was a lack of monitoring or follow up for these patients whose condition could put them at serious risk of harm.

There service did not follow current evidence based guidelines and standards.

There was no formal programme in place for quality improvement, for example clinical audits, to assess the service provision including organisational learning from significant events.

Sorry didn't rtft before my post asking about the 4 GPs.

If the GenderGP service was stopped then some former patients would inevitably self-medicate, putting themselves at much greater risk.

This is absolutely not a reason to prescribe dangerous drugs to kids. Some kids suffer a lot of pain, if they threaten to/actually buy morphine online, does this mean the GP should rpescribe it to them?!

If this goes for all aspects of healthcare rather than just trans, then I will start buying more pain relief from local dealers, then go to some private quack who will up my meds to a higher level? I genuinely do need more painkillers, but would not go down that route, and certainly would not expect my doctor to increase based on something like that.

Transgender stuff seems to be treat so much differently to all other conditions. Its baffling really.

Needmoresleep

Mermaids signpost to both GenderGP and that site that was exposed a while back as sending out binders to children for free in unmarked packaging. I flagged this up in the welsh government rse consultation which signposted teachers to mermaids so hopefully it'll connect with someones brain

God I love the Miss Marples of Mumsnet.

I have new found interest in what the National Crime Agency will find with Arron Banks and whether there are particular issues with Belize and finance, Old Crone.

When you click on the link for Spectrum Support Services Ltd, it lists Asaar Technology Ltd as a director, with the same address in Belize (not Abergavenny this time).

Helen Webberley became "a person with significant control" of Asaar Technology on 17 April 2019. Mike Webberley and Spectrum became directors on the same date, and the previous director resigned and the registered address changed. So this is when the Webberleys took over this company.

I have no idea what all this means, but it looks to me, as a non-expert, as a way of getting their money out of the UK. No idea on the legality of this.

Just to clarify, money is going FROM Helen Webberely to one of their companies (not TO Webberely) and Mike Webberely has a business in Belize. A country with a 'good reputation for finance'.

"Why Belize?" I hear you all saying...

Here's a little bit of background general knowledge I've picked up over the course of the last couple of years.

I've looked into Belize and its financial reputation a little cos of a man named Arron (you may know him from such instances as Nige's mate and a photo outside a gold lift)

Anyway Belize has something of a reputation. If you Google 'Belize money laundering' like I did cos I was rather interesting in why Mr Banks likes Belize and why the NCA is investigating Mr Banks and why opendemocracy.net and the guardian have talked about how Mr Banks income doesn't seem to add up you get this as your very first hit:

www.sanpedrosun.com/crime-and-violence/2018/04/11/international-report-marks-belize-major-drug-trafficking-money-laundering-country/
International report marks Belize as major drug trafficking and money laundering country

Now there is no suggestion that the Webberely have done anything criminal here and I'm going to stress that. I just find Belize an interesting choice to have financial interests in.

Right decision obviously, given he just took over from her in prescribing strong drugs to kids. Absolutely horrific though that they can just move abroad and keep working as doctors..presumably prescribing to patients in the UK still? That really should not be an option. That they are so determined to do this, rings huge alarm bells for me tbh. They have been found to be unfit to do this kind of work, yet push ahead anyway.

He is the fourth UK gender-affirming doctor to be subject to GMC restrictions.

4th? Thought there was just her and him..

What currency and if it onshore or off shore.

There's definitely an offshore connection in Belize. Just off to do some more screenshots

Mike Webberley is a director of another company, Asaar Technology Ltd, with the same registered office address as My Web Doctor Ltd and Gender GP Ltd. The nature of business is given as "Activities of other holding companies not elsewhere classified".

Two directors are listed: Mike Webberley and Spectrum Support Services Ltd, a company with a registered office address in Belize.

It show a 'loan' coming annually from Helen Webberely.

With the company effectively not turning a profit.

There's absolutely no detail beyond that.

It doesn't smell right.

Where are payments made? What currency and if it onshore or off shore.

It looks like it could well be 'UK shell company' of some description.

But its operational side is registered elsewhere.

No expert but that would be my suspicion.

Its not showing monies in/out though is it?
So salaries etc ?

This is the only one of Helen Webberley's businesses which has any money going through it. Mike Webberley is also a director of this one. The amount of money going through this is pretty small for a doctor in his 60s to risk his registration and anything he might have gained over his career.

Thread on twitter - not everyone is a fan.

twitter.com/neverfallingfo1/status/1129760716636983296?s=21

Should authorities be investigating parents who buy drugs off the Internet from unreputable sources to give to their children?

This is what is on the Companies House site for Gender GP Ltd. This business was listed as 'active' but last year was filing accounts for a 'dormant company'. The latest accounts are due on 31st May, so it will be interesting to see if there is now any money going through the business, since it was recently fined £12,000.

My Web Doctor Ltd also files accounts for a dormant company, but is also listed as 'active'. This seems to be a contradiction, but I admit to having no knowledge of running a limited company and what is required.

If I was a vulnerable child with gd I'd hope that my parent had decent critical thinking skills to navigate me through this minefield without causing me serious harm.

Not engaging in factual criticism with people posting in good faith isn't a good sign.

Why risk your registration after all those years of hard work and respected practice?

It may also be driven by wanting to become the 'experts' at the forefront of something new?

Ego and money are both powerful drivers.

Indeed OldCrone

I just do find it really bizarre. Is gastroenterology such a trying specialty that suddenly prescribing hormones on the web looks so much more attractive? If it was just £££ driven I'm sure there is plenty of that in gastro, and if he wanted an easy life while making £££ there's probably plenty of private work advising worried well about their ibs/food intolerances/ flogging probiotics over the web without attracting the censure of the GMC.
Why risk your registration after all those years of hard work and respected practice?

Not particularly relevant I know but I find myself pondering these things.

(No intention to belittle the real suffering related to IBS intended obv).

Also can you imagine it in any other field. Say a headteacher was suspended in a school and fined for their behaviour, can you imagine if their husband then took over the headship and carried on the same behaviour. It would be front page news.

They're clearly making a lot of it, so why doesn't it show in any of their company accounts? Where's it going?

YY OldCrone

Are any registered charities. Mermaids, Gires, etc, still actively signposting to the Webberleys? If so should the Charities Commission be informed.

I think they should, yes.

If my partner got suspended for something would I take over doing that thing they got suspended for and risk my own professional status?

In this case, the question should be:
If my partner got suspended for something and also got a criminal conviction and a fine for doing it would I take over doing that thing they got suspended for and risk my own professional status?

Yes, R0wantrees, but my point was to do with the money. They're clearly making a lot of it, so why doesn't it show in any of their company accounts? Where's it going?