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Dr Mike Webberley suspended

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Brighterf · 18/05/2019 07:06

Seems like Dr Mike Webberley has now also been suspended and he and his wife now plan to take their services overseas. Can't see this reported elsewhere yet though.

www.gaystarnews.com/article/mike-webberley-suspended-trans-kids/

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PencilsInSpace · 24/05/2019 16:56

I think a government petition would be a great idea.

The time is right for this. As well as the webberley stuff, we've had the Tavi resignations, Mordaunt's complete silence on last year's 'urgent' ROGD investigation and there are more and more detransitioners and desisters making their voices heard. Maria Miller said in January that the focus should not be on GRA reform but on trans health care.

Happy to oblige, Maria.

One important thing to note about govt. petitions - they will reject anything that looks like a duplicate so it has to be written carefully - we need to get it right first time.

R0wantrees · 24/05/2019 14:29

It maybe that it was a natural choice for Caro to use the platform.

As ChattyLions says above there are people of all political/ideological stripes concerned about children.

Some concerns align, some are different.

OldCrone · 24/05/2019 14:16

I see what you mean, R0wantrees. A second, totally distinct petition on the other platform might be better. I feel it's a shame that Caro decided to put her petition on a site which is likely to be divisive, as well as it having no official status, since the parliament petitions site should have been the natural place to put it.

I'm not comfortable with putting my name out there at the moment, so I'm hoping that someone else will do it.

R0wantrees · 24/05/2019 14:06

OldCrone As Caro's is already running and Im sure will be supported by many it would (IMO) be better not to simply replicate across platforms.

Im sure there are other people who might wish/ or are able to create one in due course.

OldCrone · 24/05/2019 13:51

@Carowiththegoodhair
Would you consider posting your petition on the UK Parliament petitions site? I notice your petition now has over 5000 signatures, and there are many of us here who are not keen to sign that one, but would sign one on the parliament petitions site, where the government has to respond to over 10,000 signatures. The Citizen Go one they can just ignore if they wish.

Since you have already written out the petition, you could just copy and paste to the other site. Anyone else here would have to start from scratch, and many of us are not keen to put our real names out there as the creator of such a petition.

ByGrabtharsHammarWhatASaving · 24/05/2019 13:40

I agree, I signed a petition on CitizenGo before without knowing what it's values were and was then inundated with information about petitions I hadn't signed about campaigns I strongly did not support such as anti-choice and anti gay marriage campaigns. I know we're "hands across the aisle" and all but I don't want any association with that kind of thing. Would much prefer a petition on the parliament site or a politically neutral site.

R0wantrees · 24/05/2019 13:15

A parliamentory petition will, if it is written carefully be more effective.

It would be good if some of those directly impacted eg the females apparently harmed by Dr Mike Webberley, parents of childen who have identified as transgender, or those who have been involved in the whistle blowing, with Safeguarding or medical backgounds came together to create a nuanced and hopefully effective petition.

The wording matters, so too the authors.

Many people are very concerned and it makes sense to consider how best to try to influence MPs.

TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 24/05/2019 11:49

Yeah a UK one would be better, as once it has 10k sigs it has to get a response I think? 100k means a debate in parliament, but it seems not many petitions get quite that much support..

ChattyLion · 23/05/2019 20:08

Excellent! It is great to be starting petitions, of all political stripes. Everybody puuuullllllllll

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 23/05/2019 19:02

A UK government petition sounds like a great idea!

Yep. It's the only one that can't completely ignore.

LangCleg · 23/05/2019 18:54

A UK government petition sounds like a great idea!

OldCrone · 23/05/2019 18:49

Caro
Since your petition is directed at the UK government, have you thought about putting it on the UK Parliament petition site? If 10,000 people sign, the government has to respond.

R0wantrees · 23/05/2019 18:45

Caro Im unsure why you're now characterising this as an argument.

Its not.

Its a civilised exchange about your petition.

Carowiththegoodhair · 23/05/2019 18:33

I’ve asked the mods to pull the post. I really don’t want an argument. Thanks.

Carowiththegoodhair · 23/05/2019 18:30

Just to clarify. I’m not seeking to become a representative for people’s concerns. I wrote a petition with the intention of putting pressure on the change-makers.

That’s all. No big issue. I’ll get the mods to pull if it’s a problem.

R0wantrees · 23/05/2019 18:01

Its not derailing the thread.

You've started a petition which references a lot of the comments on this thread.

You didn't explain that its yours nor did you clarify the nature of the site.

There are very serious Safeguarding and Duty of Care issues with the Webberley's practice. Its important to make these concerns known and also important should person/people seek to become representatives for concerns that women know who they are and what their wider position is.

People should contact their MPs and the various ministers involved with health and Safeguarding.

Any petition should be absolutely transparent.

Carowiththegoodhair · 23/05/2019 17:56

No problem Rowan Smile

Just putting it out there for those who do. Let’s not derail the thread.

Take care.

R0wantrees · 23/05/2019 17:47

from wiki:

"CitizenGO is an ultraconservative advocacy group founded in Madrid, Spain, in 2013 by HazteOir.

The foundation promotes petitions in 50 countries, including petitions defending Christian and Catholic causes, and those opposing same-sex marriage, abortion, and euthanasia"

So no caro I won't be signing.

R0wantrees · 23/05/2019 17:24

I think transparency is important.

Carowiththegoodhair · 23/05/2019 17:10

Fair enough. All that happens in this instance is that Matt Hancock and Sarah Wollaston will be notified of the signatures and can choose whether or not to take notice.

You can sign the petition & decide whether or not to opt in to further updates. It doesn’t commit you to any wider cause and neither are you counted as being a member of anything.

Just putting it out there.

R0wantrees · 23/05/2019 17:05

Ok, thanks for clarifying, not sure why it wasnt made clear that its yours?

I think its important to know the background to petitions (general principle not specific here)

I only came across citizengo recently. Its not been on my radar.

Carowiththegoodhair · 23/05/2019 16:56

Hi Rowantrees

I set it up. Signing it simply means that you support that individual petition.

R0wantrees · 23/05/2019 16:43

Carowiththegoodhair

As this petition has just been launched (currently >10 signatures) can you shed any light on who has set it up please?
I feel I don't really understand enough about CitizenGo petitions.

Genderfreelass · 23/05/2019 16:16

Thanks for the link Caro, signed.

Carowiththegoodhair · 23/05/2019 15:48

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