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Naked Yoga and Cuddle Parties: Lap Dancing Clubs for the Woke

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AlwaysComingHome · 16/05/2019 23:15

Interesting article on Quillette that confirms most of what we think about Woke Bros:

As a journalist writing about weird workshops and unusual classes I’ve covered cuddle parties, rope-binding, naked yoga, and tantra, to name but a few. These classes are popular with the hipsters who are colonising Hackney Wick and other areas of East London in the throes of gentrification. And with each event I cover, I become more suspicious that these “alternative” workshops are simply a way for apparently progressive men to gawp at women—lap dancing clubs for the woke...

quillette.com/2019/05/15/naked-yoga-and-cuddle-parties-lap-dancing-clubs-for-the-woke/

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hoodathunkit · 18/05/2019 20:48

Connections between satanic ritual abuse hoaxer and child sexual abuse charity scammer Belinda McKenzie* and the Mujahadin e Khalq cult are detailed here

hoaxteadresearch.wordpress.com/2017/12/17/belinda-iran-aid-and-the-mujahadin-e-khalq-making-connections/

*McKenzie is, amongst other things, the former landlady of former MI5 officer turned 9/11 Truther / David Icke endorsing conspiracy theorist David Shayler

According to his wikipedia page

"Claims of divinity[edit]
Shayler speaks positively about David Icke, an individual who has claimed to be the son of God: "David has done some enormously important work. I see him as the John the Baptist to my Christ. I have spoken to him on the phone and suggested we meet." Shayler himself has staked a claim to divinity. Shayler has said he is committed to destroying what he calls the "Zionist empire".[24]

Transvestism[edit]
In an article in the London Evening Standard in 2009, Shayler further discussed the Messiah claim and revealed that he was living as a woman in a squat in Abinger Hammer, Surrey. His former girlfriend, Annie Machon, claims Shayler's long battle with the intelligence services led him to suffer a breakdown.[25] Shayler has since told newspapers that his transvestite 'alter ego' is called Delores Kane.[26]"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Shayler#Claims_of_divinity

also see

www.newstatesman.com/politics/politics/2014/04/meet-no-planers

hoodathunkit · 18/05/2019 19:37

Adnan Oktar and his "kittens"

"Inside the Weird World of Adnan Oktar's Islamic 'Feminist' Cult"

while we are on an Islamic "feminist" cult tip

This video is interesting.

A documentary by Iranian film-maker Maziar Bahari about the Mujahedin-e Khalq (MEK) Contains disturbing scenes

This organisation is active in the UK and has for some years been engaged in charity fraud. They also have network links to scammers attempting to raise funds to combat "satanic ritual abuse". Someone attempted to recruit me to this organisation in real life, describing it as an organisation of freedom fighters concerned with the empowerment of women.

hoodathunkit · 18/05/2019 19:20

Next

The Human Awareness Institute (HAI)

A cross between a Large Group Awareness Training (LGAT) and a "hands on" sexual training course with different levels, starting with gentle touch, eye gazing and non-sexual touching, progressing to masturbation and sexual intercourse and people go through the different levels

Promotional video here

HAI members at Boston Pride in 2014

note the free hugs on offer free hugs are another recruitment MO, again gentle touch targeted at vulnerable people

This is interesting, don't know who this man is, but in the below HAI promotional video the testimonial is from a man who is clearly a member of the 3HO cult, a kundalini / tantric yoga cult with multiple connections to interesting sex businesses such as One Taste and HAI

Unfortunately both One Taste and HAI are highly active globally including in the UK. Certainly with HAI especially there is a significant similarities with cuddle parties and "tantra" groups inasmuch as the number of mental health professionals involved,

hoodathunkit · 18/05/2019 18:27

The first in a number of videos that are important for women to check out if you are interested in the grooming, manipulation and exploitation of vulnerable people (men and women but mostly women) by cult like groups

This group, One Taste, teaches something called "orgasmic meditation" or OM / Oming

The Cult Education Institute archive and forum has a lot of information about this group

AFistfulofDolores1 · 18/05/2019 12:30

I wrote a very general blog about what to look for, but nothing specific. I have contacts who have been thoroughly outspoken and are shunned (not that they care now).

I also know of one practitioner who has been exposed. Many more who should be stopped, save for the fact they have such a voracious following.

hoodathunkit · 18/05/2019 12:11

The issue of older men pairing up with younger women arises is this video

"Leora Lightwoman speaks of her Journey Intro Tantra after completing a Psychology degree at Oxford University."

Leora Lightwoman, not her real name obviously, operates an absolutely fascinating organisation called Diamond Light Tantra

Qualified, accredited psychotherapists work at this organisation.

Apart from touch, eye gazing is another aspect of many “tantric” training courses and is promoted in this video.

Much like the massage and gentle, intimate touch used to create emotional bonds and trust between strangers, eye gazing will induce a light trance state and will create trust and loving feelings between people who do not know one another. While this may be an interesting technique to use between lovers it is something I would advise against between strangers as it can be misused by predators to groom and manipulate vulnerable people.

All of these techniques, NLP, massage / touch / eye gazing are promoted by dubious persons such as pick up artists.

hoodathunkit · 18/05/2019 11:54

AFistfulofDolores1

Thank you for your post

Please be extremely careful about sharing your experience

It is important to share but take care not to place yourself in danger

hoodathunkit · 18/05/2019 11:52

And with each event I cover, I become more suspicious that these “alternative” workshops are simply a way for apparently progressive men to gawp at women—lap dancing clubs for the woke...

While there is certainly no shortage of dirty old men attending naked yoga, cuddle parties etc in order to gawp at and possibly grope vulnerable women the main rationale for these events is to act as a funnel by which to channel vulnerable people, male and female, into cultic criminal networks.

These networks operate by harvesting compromising information about vulnerable people (and, importantly, their social circle) and using that data for the purposes of blackmail and control people of influence.

These cults use psychic mediums, astrologers, plastic shamans, healers etc to influence psychiatrists, psychotherapists etc and their clients, politicians, and other people of influence. Equipped with all kinds of sensitive and compromising information they are able to persuade their victims that they have supernatural powers.

The criminal networks that these events feed into generate significant revenue streams from the sexual exploitation of young people (male and female), blackmail and by coercing vulnerable people with life threatening illnesses to donate their homes, assets etc to cults.

For this reason I would advice extreme caution about anyone getting involved with these groups. They are extremely dangerous. In some cases they are violent towards those who dare to oppose them, but more frequently they use their control over people of influence including psychiatrists, police etc to oppress their enemies.

They are also able to convince vulnerable people struggling with mental illnesses that they were sexually abused when they were not. False memories of child sexual abuse, especially incest and satanic ritual abuse are their specialties.

Don't say that you haven't been warned

AFistfulofDolores1 · 18/05/2019 10:49

@hoodathunkit - I totally agree. I used to move in these circles; I even trained in a particular modality. I swiftly realised how damaging most of it was, and subsequently a) distanced myself and b) started to become vocally critical of it (though no-one really heard it because I removed myself from everything to do with it!).

I saw others come to the same realisation too. The thing we all had in common: a background in psychotherapy.

hoodathunkit · 18/05/2019 10:25

oops

"love coming" should read "love bombing"

proof read woman, proof read!

hoodathunkit · 18/05/2019 10:24

Anyone who is interested in this issue will find much to interest them in this fascinating old film, now very dated, but that shows fairly accurately how vulnerable women, especially those suffering from somatic illnesses, can be manipulated and abused by cults using touch, hypnosis, NLP type methods, "breathwork" / rebirthing, love coming and the like

One thing that makes the film very dated is the strategy at the end, a kidnap type "intervention" that can never, ever be recommended and that usually fails

hoodathunkit · 18/05/2019 10:20

An interesting piece that resonates with the research I have conducted into these groups over the last decade (in fact going back to the 80s) but more so since 2009

There is a lot more to say about this but for now the most important thing that readers need to understand about these groups is as follows

  1. Unfortunately many NHS psychiatrists, psychologists, psychotherapists and various kinds of new age healers, male and female, are involved in these kinds of activities
  1. I am concerned about the victim blaming going on in relation to the women who get groomed into joining these groups. Usually the women involved have long histories of mental health problems and / or alcohol / drug misuse and are desperate to change. Many are referred to the groups by healers, psychotherapists and / or allegedly feminist "women's empowerment" groups.
  1. As happens with sex trafficking and other crimes there is a significant crossover category of vulnerable people (mostly but not exclusively female) who are both victims and perpetrators. This occurs when victims are brainwashed into recruiting further victims, often in the belief that they are helping them to heal.
  1. There are significant numbers of extremely vulnerable men (some with serious diseases such as cancer or MS some with longstanding mental health problems or addictions, a significant number with learning disabilities or on the autistic spectrum) who are recruited to such groups by male and female recruiters offering sex, love and intimacy.
  1. The use of touch and nakedness as a strategy for eroding people's personal boundaries or otherwise influencing them is central to understanding the modus operandi of these networks. Many organisers / leaders of meetup events / cuddle parties and the like are trained in NLP which uses touch as a way of influencing people. This has been in the news recently in relation to disclosures of former staff working on the Jeremy Kyle show who describe using touch and NLP to manipulate the various vulnerable people appearing on the show.

Will post more later

FannyCann · 18/05/2019 00:05
Grin
FannyCann · 18/05/2019 00:04

One for the weekend. Kilted yoga anyone?

LassOfFyvie · 17/05/2019 19:13

yes it's grooming. And it's grooming of women who are unable, for whatever reason, to assert their boundaries. And therefore vulnerable

Sorry, but this is not being forced on anyone. These idiotic women are making a conscious decision that naked yoga might be a good thing. From the article there was no suggestion that anyone should think it was mixed sex. Women should take responsibility for their actions-it is bleedin' obvious how grim this would be. Who would even want to go single sex naked yoga?

The writer might want to consider why the events are attracting young women and old men, but not young men and old women

That's quite heartening actually- I mean young men not being interested.

TinselAngel · 17/05/2019 15:08

It all makes me thankful that I've never been a natural joiner in.

Genderfreelass · 17/05/2019 11:55

Saggy old man doing a downward dog - think I might need to vomit

WhatTheWatersShowedMe · 17/05/2019 11:21

Ugh, I can't imagine anything worse than those workshops described. Naked Yoga? I mean FFS, what sane woman would go to that??! Gross.

deydododatdodontdeydo · 17/05/2019 10:58

Just highlights how women need all female spaces but I suppose

That wouldn't help in this case, because the women are choosing freely to enter these spaces.

Endofthedays · 17/05/2019 10:45

The writer might want to consider why the events are attracting young women and old men, but not young men and old women.

Datun · 17/05/2019 10:21

allowing them to feel like nice guys while they’re perving over women half their age who’ve been manipulated into pairing up with them. And all the while they think they’re morally superior to the sort of men who “exploit” and “objectify” women by paying them to take their tops off in strip clubs.

Quite.

And yes it's grooming. And it's grooming of women who are unable, for whatever reason, to assert their boundaries. And therefore vulnerable.

I'm really glad, that, at least, on here, those endless prudery/pearl clutching accusations are getting less (fewer?)

The gender ideology, coupled with the work bro bandwagon jumping, has really exposed quite how many situations there are to promote pervy behaviour under the disguise of progress.

Sex lessons in school, anal sex instructions in teen magazines, these ridiculous classes, choosing your sex and accessing women and children, etc.

All of it getting sunlight.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 17/05/2019 10:13

yes.

don't want to get naked in front of males?

Evil, exclusionary transphobe!

if young women start believing this bullshit, cui bono?

Ereshkigal · 17/05/2019 10:12

Society is currently grooming girls to believe boundaries are wrong.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 17/05/2019 10:09

yeah, any sensible woman with healthy boundaries would run a mile from an event like this. I totally agree.