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Harry the Owl

341 replies

slycooperatemysocks · 15/05/2019 15:45

Please can Harry be dropped from the Fair Cop campaign. Having an overt racist involved will just damage it. Thank you

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NonnyMouse1337 · 29/05/2019 08:21

Thanks for the reminder. I'll get this done now that it's past payday.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 29/05/2019 08:19

I’ll definitely help!

MilletSentToForceIt · 29/05/2019 07:35

JUst bumping this. Fundraiser has made it to over £20k, but needs to raise a further 5k in 12 days. I will give another (small) amount in the next day or so, can anyone else help?

EweSurname · 27/05/2019 12:31

Harry’s uploaded an expose of West Yorkshire police force and their hate crime strategies

m.youtube.com/watch?v=8LJDInwOCbg&feature=youtu.be

MsJeminaPuddleduck · 26/05/2019 17:13

Just bumping this - 15 days to go, nearly there. Thank you, Harry the Owl

SummerPlace · 26/05/2019 00:49

@RedDogsBeg: I love the word mendacious, must use it more often.

I am just catching up, but as soon as read this, it reminded of a scene from the fabulously overwrought move, "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof," that included an actor I loved - no, not Paul Newman, but Burl Ives:

MilletSentToForceIt · 24/05/2019 08:14

reawamutu I’m not sure you read that incorrectly!

FannyCann · 24/05/2019 08:12

I’m hoping there’ll be another surge when we get paid at the end of the month.

I did Maya's this month. Harry when I get paid.
I'm sure there will be plenty others.

MsJeminaPuddleduck · 24/05/2019 07:56

Thanks for reminder. Just been paid so will lob a little more his way. I'm excited about this one - thank you Harry the Owl!

Cuntysnark · 24/05/2019 07:55

I’m hoping there’ll be another surge when we get paid at the end of the month.

MilletSentToForceIt · 24/05/2019 07:52

Harry The Owls fund raiser seems to have stalled, if anyone is thinking of donating but hasn’t yet taken the plunge, now would be a great time to do it!

teawamutu · 24/05/2019 06:58

I'd actually read that as Mermaids Police before I clicked the link. Says it all, really.

Janie143 · 23/05/2019 23:50

[https://mobile.twitter.com/MerpolLGBT/status/1113127607862747136]
Is there any police force not in Stonewall's pocket

teawamutu · 23/05/2019 21:33

18,624, 18 days to go.

Needmoresleep · 21/05/2019 13:52

£17,632 so far with 20 days to go.

762 people donating. Go Harry go.

And as for Harrop, what HAS happened to his profile pic?

Thingybob · 21/05/2019 13:44

I've noticed that a Dr and his legal sidekick are making thinly veiled accusations on Twitter. Is it a replay of the ploy they used to goad CF?

theOtherPamAyres · 18/05/2019 12:19

The aim is to test the lawfulness of the definition of "hate incident"

Yesterday (17/05/19), Deputy Chief Constable Julia Cooke, let something slip in a brief piece to camera (43 seconds) about the police's commitment to tackle hate attacks.

The slip wouldn't register with those who aren't up to speed on policy and regulatory capture, or mission creep by the police.

The slip came when she described herself as the lead Chief Officer on matters relating to LGBT PLUS. I assume that she means other letters in the alphabet soup. I don't remember Parliament directing the police to pay attention to the injustices against the Q and the A and the P, do you? Why are the police including the alpahabet soup then?

How soon before it is phobic to criticise Queer theory?

That's why I support the Judicial review.

twitter.com/DCCJulieCooke/status/1129322271062089730

(43 seconds video of DCC Cooke)

teawamutu · 18/05/2019 12:11

Lang, if we had that clapping hands icon here, and it wasn't the Mark of the Wokey Twat on Twitter, I'd use it. Brilliantly incisive.

LangCleg · 18/05/2019 11:42

That said, I will add that I also agree with what R0 has been saying about making sure we understand motivations and power relationships - our enemy's enemy is not always our friend.

It's just that it's not relevant to a decision about whether or not to support the crowdfund. That should rest solely on whether or not you believe these police guidelines should be tested in court as possibly unlawful.

I do believe they should be tested in court. Crowdjustice provides a trustworthy platform for fundraising. Therefore, I have donated and will again if it needs more to reach its target.

Ereshkigal · 18/05/2019 10:00

Well said Lang.

Janie143 · 18/05/2019 09:58

Thank you Lang Clear explanation as always from you

Datun · 18/05/2019 09:55

The question is: do you support the case?

Precisely, Lang. Which should be self evident. Which I suspect it is really. (And I'm sure Sarah Ditum would agree).

LangCleg · 18/05/2019 09:51

Here's the thing with this fundraiser: clear all the noise away. Then think: what is its aim? Do I support its aim? Is the destination for my money clear?

The aim is to test the lawfulness of the definition of "hate incident" the police are currently using - that it is based solely in the perception of the victim and has nothing to do with the motivation of the perpetrator and does not need to meet a criminal threshold for police action.

The fund is set up on Crowdjustice, which transfers monies directly to legal practitioners. It is the most reliable of crowdfunding websites for this reason.

So, if you want this specific aspect of police practice tested in law - as many of us here do and have been asking for since forever - it really isn't relevant who is bringing the case or who else is supporting it. What matters is the testing in court of what a wide variety of people see as state/police overreach.

Clear all the noise away.

The question is: do you support the case?

The question is not: do you support Harry himself? Nor is it: do you support any particular donor to his fund?

LangCleg · 18/05/2019 09:43

Joss has accused Sarah Ditum of being Datun on Twitter

The temptation to Spartacus the fuck out of that is almost overwhelming!