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Godfrey Elfwick's take on the #sexstrike

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LegoToast · 13/05/2019 22:46

spectator.us/sexstrike-intersectional-alyssa-milano/

"Her appallingly problematic hashtag not only excludes the trans community, it also insults us by suggesting that the sub-selection of human beings who have a uterus and are capable of gestation are known by the classification of the term ‘women’. Perhaps she forgot to add the ‘cis’ prefix to her tweet? Maybe she didn’t realize that a certain group of women still own penises and also happen to be lesbians,therefore going on a sex strike would have no impact on the issue of anti-abortion for them?"

"I am sick and tired of trans identities being erased like this.Can we please stop using the exclusionary term ‘woman’ and instead say ‘uterus owner’ or ‘person with a cervix’? That way, the word ‘woman’ can be reserved for those of us who have made a real effort to either medically transition or identify as a woman by adding ‘she/her’ to our Twitter bios. The status of womanhood should not be something you are born to; it must be EARNED."

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GirlDownUnder · 16/05/2019 00:16

2B no dramas Grin

It was just I posted a rather flippant comment way up ^ and when further comments were critical I thought I'd totally misunderstood the OP / piece.

When other people also did a double take, I re-read more carefully.

It shouldn't be this hard to discern send-up from seriousness. Fine line indeed Sad

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LegoToast · 15/05/2019 23:45

My cat has a uterus.

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2BthatUnnoticed · 15/05/2019 23:15

Slight tangent (sorry OP I will stop hijacking your thread after this) but.. why do so many women seem to be pushing / complying with this erasive language?

Godfrey Elfwick's take on the #sexstrike
2BthatUnnoticed · 15/05/2019 22:33

But that might have offended the women who have dicks... /s

Women Alyssa, it’s ok to say it!

Girl thanks - sorry for any confusion caused by those tweets... it shows the fine line now separating reality from satire Smile

DodoPatrol · 15/05/2019 22:30

Preferably not twice Confused

DodoPatrol · 15/05/2019 22:19

Oh FGS Alyssa, all you had to do was type 'Dicks, the lot of them'.

DodoPatrol · 15/05/2019 22:19

Oh FGS Alyssa, all you had to do was type 'Dicks, the lot of them'.

TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 15/05/2019 20:07

One cannot ever discuss issues that affect women without having to centre the penis havers. Regardless of what those penis havers chose to call themselves.

I mean, this is obviously satire, but it could actually very easily be a 'genuine post', which is scary as fuck. I actually have to check at times when trans posts pop up, and usually, its a genuine one rather than the obvious pisstake it comes across as.

DpWm · 15/05/2019 14:23

Why would you want there to be a random photo of a uterus in with all those men Alyssa??

GirlDownUnder · 15/05/2019 13:25

Just to clear up my the confusion on this thread

The Spectator piece by Godfrey Elfwick is satire referring to tweeter Alyssa Milano, and posted by the OP_
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https://spectator.us/sexstrike-intersectional-alyssa-milanoo__/
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The twitter thread (and Alyssas' tweets in general) is a car crash_
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Alyssaa_Milano/status/1127040792281767936

If it was just me confused about this, you can just ignore me Smile

Ereshkigal · 15/05/2019 13:14

And here it is. She has dropped the terribly offensive “woman” for... “uterus”

How would she know that one of those people wasn't one of the many many trans people who can totally pass as the opposite sex, and thus did have a uterus? Transphobic. Do better. You could have avoided referencing anything to do with the old fashioned idea of a person's sex being an issue in abortions but you chose not to, Alyssa.

andyoldlabour · 15/05/2019 12:45

sam@odetobeokay is a TW and a real peak trans sherpa, their twitter feed is an absolute car crash.
It is now apparently twansphobic to not put c*s before woman Wink

FermatsTheorem · 15/05/2019 12:21

ABORTION BANS ARE A WOMEN'S ISSUE. THEY'RE BANNED BECAUSE OF MEN WHO HATE WOMEN, HATE THE IDEA OF WOMEN HAVING SEX AND HATE THE IDEA OF WOMEN HAVING A SAY IN WHAT HAPPENS TO THEIR BODIES.

Sorry to shout, but if you don't get this basic fact about the power relations, you're siding with the oppressor, Alyssa. And that person who policed the language in your tweets? Newsflash: they're a misogynist who hates women too, and when they police your language, they're exerting power on you. And when you capitulate, you're not being "inclusive", you're colluding in your own oppression.

Justhadathought · 15/05/2019 12:04

HA! just realised it is a joke......really wasn't sure.

Justhadathought · 15/05/2019 12:02

Jeez! You couldn't make this stuff up.........Is that for real!

2BthatUnnoticed · 15/05/2019 11:50

And here it is. She has dropped the terribly offensive “woman” for... “uterus” Hmm

Godfrey Elfwick's take on the #sexstrike
FermatsTheorem · 14/05/2019 20:33

The quote in the OP is satire - but the twitter exchange further on in the thread isn't.

DpWm · 14/05/2019 15:09

^
Dammit it's satire!
Fuck so hard to tell.
Poe's law in action right?

DpWm · 14/05/2019 14:28

Wow so this dickhead genderqueer Muslim transperson having a rant...
Maybe didn't realise that transwomen who are lesbians will be having sex with women who fall pregnant so it's about a sex strike of all women including transwomen who get women pregnant who will strike in solidarity. Godfrey is saying he wants to exclude transwomen from the sex strike when no one else has said that?

Batshit.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 14/05/2019 12:22

I know orchid

Its like that game where you have to guess a word and you are not allowed to use the actual word

And im shit at that game

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LegoToast · 14/05/2019 10:16

I hope that anyone TRAs lurking actually read the article at least... it will show them how silly they look!

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KatvonHostileExtremist · 14/05/2019 10:15

That was hilarious.
So close to the shit that they chat.
Knocked for six at the end

Boooooooom Grin

Orchidoptic · 14/05/2019 10:08

Ah Rufus, its a good job we don’t have to pay per word used now

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 14/05/2019 07:47

You do know all the TRAs are jerking off to all the reeeeeeeing on here don't you?

I dont care

People jerk off to all sorts of perfectly normal/innocent stuff

There are people looking at threads about periods and breastfeeding and and children and bras and jerking off

If i worried about people jerking off to posts on mumsnet I'd never be ale to post anything

And i dont mean people obviously....I'd just quite like my post not to be deleted beacuse i mention a certain type of person with a particular piece of equipment

ChattyLion · 14/05/2019 06:19

Who gives a shit about validating ofhers’ delusions at a time when women are going to die because of this? The response should have been to that idiot to GTFO out of her Twitter feed until they can scrape together some normal human solidarity. This one issue where there really isn’t a grey area. You’re either against killing women or you’re for it.

I really think it shouldn’t just be up to women to resist this. Removing safe legal abortion has to be everyone’s issue because denying abortion = death (but never if you are a man and men can never know what that prospect feels like). Everyone should be really fucking outraged about this law. We should also point out: It is also radically anti-family to be anti-abortion. Even if you hate women but consider yourself to like children, who already exist and need mothers Hmm you should be pro choice.

Actual real life women- our mothers, sisters, friends, colleagues, wives, girlfriends- these women will die. Because death is what happens when women can’t get a safe legal abortion any more.

Everyone should stand in solidarity with women at this time of a terrifying fundamental attack on the lives of all women. Banning safe legal abortion is the same as giving actual death sentence to women. We just don’t know which specific woman it will affect yet, but it will start to kill women within weeks and that is horrific.