Posie not being charged

I think the police would be best to take a step back and consider if they are being ‘played’.

It’s happened before - look at the ongoing paedophile ring case (where the accuser is in the dock accused of making the whole thing up - and has been exposed as a paedophile himself) and the Orkney sex abuse rings (and others).

The facts sounded far fetched (but then we trust the police ‘no smoke without fire etc) and the lack of checks made is gob smacking.

If I was told that as a child, X was regularly taken out of class by men and saw 3 named kids murdered, wouldn’t you check school records and actually try to track down these kids (dead or alive?).

Don’t even get me started in the ones who acted in full public sight - who were ‘known’ by a lot of people but got away with it (tv personalities and politicians who even gave the creeps as a small child in the 70s).

Waste of police resources / embarrassing decisions would be of interest to police & crime commissioners as they hold the budget.

As often mentioned on Twitter, this is enforced from the top down, and rumour has it that the police actually policing loathe it and don't agree.

Very symptomatic of a political system that has disappeared up its own, very expensive, highly ideological and wanky bum and has lost all touch with the people they are paid by to deliver services to - while insisting that those people are stupid, ignorant and need compulsory being good done to re educating. Heavy punishment at elections is ahead, but considering the total chaos of Brexit which was largely about voter punishment/anger at the level of disengagement and not being listened to, things will get worse before they get better.

Waste of police resources / embarrassing decisions would be of interest to police & crime commissioners as they hold the budget. I think most up for reelection next May.

(Licks pencil)... what’s the name of the Home Sec again?

Don’t the police, police the police? This is always put forward as the reason that nothing changes. If someone’s is killed by a police officer then a neighbouring force will investigate and confirm that all was above board, nothing to see here, carry on. I think some of these investigations are carried out on behalf of The independent Police Complaints Commission.

Eventually, if it’s still clear that something is awry (Hillsborough) then the Home Secretary will announce a public enquiry.

They don't seem to be very effective

Well, we know what to do then don't we. Start flexing those writing muscles

WPUK together with their connected We Need To Talk group have been reported to the police counter terrorist unit as a hate group

ROTFL

Oh bless. I'm sure they'll get a very kind letter back

"WPUK together with their connected We Need To Talk group have been reported to the police counter terrorist unit as a hate group under the UK Prevent programme. They are regarded in the same category as Britain First. This is not listening and debating with a reasonable group".

Reported by who exactly? A bunch of TRAs continuing to try and smear the names of GC women?

the Police Federation? Or is that the police union, I can't remember.

I don't know who polices them, but it seems that they report to Susie Green.

They don’t seem to be very effective.

Who polices the police? [Resists urge to put AC-12] Isn't that the job of the police and crime commissioners???

Dumb question but who polices the police? Look at Stephen Lawrence, Hillsborough, Jimmy saville... questions asked and sod all done.

Please consider backing Harry the Owl, I know I can’t post the link here, but it is easily found. There is a thread here about it already.

He is going to court over Humberside Police ‘checking his thinking’ and speaking to his MD over retweeting a limerick.

I’m about to watch the Posie video, they always set me up for the day! 💐🦸🏼‍♀️. I’m not sure how that second emoji will translate, but it is a blonde superwoman, which seems appropriate.

Christ. The Keystone Cops would blush at that one.

Well, the Keystone Cops fucked up by mistake. It's hard not to see this as deliberate.

the police should be prosecuted for harassment

Quite.

Posie

Also this:

If I could go back in time and tell 19 year old me that one day the men's movement most likely to destroy women's rights would be one with a large number of men in pigtails, nappies, and fursuits, who were able to convince libfems that some penises are female, I'd have assumed future me lived on a diet of magic mushrooms.

Quoll

What would SG have to actually do before she's charged with wasting police time? Serious question!

The TRA lobby has been desperate for a long time for strategic law cases to set precedents and swing law into their favour. There are their brainwashed twerps in high places who are pushing this through on their orders. I suspect there are also the brainwash resistant and highly pissed off people in both the police and CPS also quietly helping push this through to prove that there is no point in ceaselessly litigating and weaponizing the police and courts because it isn't actually against the law and it makes the police and courts look like complete twits.

Not to mention the sheer embarrassment of a judge sitting listening to a case that goes 'and then they tweeted that, so I tweeted this and I put this up on WhatsApp and THEY retweeted it...' like a bunch of year fives on a long wet lunch break.

I stand corrected Jacky

However she was a reluctant witness and emailed the court the day before proceedings demanding anonymity or she would refuse to testify. The judge wasn't having any of it and in the end she did testify by video link.

mirandayardley.com/en/when-a-transsexual-is-prosecuted-for-transgender-hate-crime/

Thanks Spartacus

So she's not relieved, she's disappointed! Go Posie!

FannyCann

I think your interpretation of the main "witness" in the Miranda Yardley case may not be quite accurate.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6764763/Britains-transgender-hate-crime-trial-halted-one-day.html

It shows a pattern of harassment. Why do the police still insist on chasing up ‘crimes’ then? People are getting fed up with it and becoming mistrustful if the police.

SG withdrew charges against Posie. IIRC SG also withdrew charges against Caroline. Meanwhile
Helen Islan got cold feet and withdrew charges against Miranda but the CPS had the bit between their teeth and went ahead with the prosecution anyway. Helen was a reluctant, tearful witness and the case was slung out by the judge. Please correct me if I am wrong on any of these recollections.

So it seems the likely explanation is one of two possibilities:

1. A policy of making complaints to the police in the knowledge that the police will harass/threaten and generally cause grief to the person they complain about. They can then withdraw charges and leave the other person tainted whilst not having the bother of going to court etc themselves (except that failed for HI).
2. They have come to realise these cases bring adverse publicity, especially when they are slung out of court which is likely to happen.

They should be prosecuted for wasting police time and the police should be prosecuted for harassment.

They ran out of time because 9 months isn't enough time to get a charge on two comments that were made by an individual.

Christ. The Keystone Cops would blush at that one.

Just when you think your opinion of the police can't get any lower.

Posie can make a subject access request to find out what the police hold on her.

All of this and what have the cops actually got to show for it? Miranda the only one actually prosecuted and the judge kicked the case at the very first opportunity.

Wonder how much this shitshow has cost us as taxpayers? And how many actual crimes go uninvestigated because of this nonsense?

YES!!!!!