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LBC debate on S Times foster children article

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BuzzShitbagBobbly · 12/05/2019 23:30

I have been suspecting Tom Swarbrick of GC views for a while, but he has been very low key about it unsurprising with a James O'Brien as a colleague

I have just listened (11pm, Sunday) to a brilliant exchange with Andrew Gilligan and Ben Butterworth about AG's article on the foster children in the Sunday Times today.

Andrew calmly and coherently dismantled several of Ben's outraged reactions, including the suicide quote.

Tom is just starting the phone in now and the first text he read out was about being clear about gender vs sex; and how children of 3 are children!

Currently a tw (70 years old) who says they "knew" they were a girl because they liked dressing up and doing laundry with their mum Hmm (yet then goes on to endorse watchful waiting for children till older)

Highly recommend listen again.

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BuzzShitbagBobbly · 13/05/2019 10:11

Well, let's be charitable Bluestitch, they have so much to do, maybe they hadn't heard this item.

But obviously with the Eyes on this board diligently reporting back, I'm sure they'll get right on this blatant and horrific transphobia tout de suite.

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Bluestitch · 13/05/2019 08:58

Even Harrop seems to have kept quiet on this one. He's usually the first to jump on a Times story, maybe the transing of a likely traumatised 3 year old is too much even for him. I've noticed that with TRAs, anything they know is bollocks they just ignore, never publicly contradict though.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 13/05/2019 08:22

Not a single solitary word from the TRAs on his twitter feed. I suppose it's hard to be the first one to defend the plainly indefensible...
twitter.com/TomSwarbrick1/status/1127673238660763653

Hopefully this is the Listen Again link. Starts at 1:04:12
www.lbc.co.uk/radio/aod/?episodeId=Q2F0Y2h1cEVwaXNvZGU6OTE5MTA=

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Bluestitch · 13/05/2019 08:11

Just listened to this on catch up. AG was excellent, especially re suicide stats and how the debate is now such that even reporting facts is 'transphobic'.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 13/05/2019 00:03

That was incredible. This is what happens when ordinary people find out the reality of what is being peddled.

The foster mother needs locking up though.

Tom S is getting a note of appreciation from me in the morning.

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resisterpersister · 13/05/2019 00:02

Ah, spoke too soon! Someone was talking a lot of sense about the medical transition of kids and how they'll likely be suing in 10 years, but they were wrapping up.

He just said they'd leave it there, but he did say they'll come back to the topic, when it's in the news again.

I'll have to listen when it's on catchup.

Who was that other bloke at the end, does anyone know?

resisterpersister · 12/05/2019 23:59

It's still on, hit the "listen" button here: www.lbc.co.uk/

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 12/05/2019 23:51

Every caller is "WTF?"

And then saying "Let kids be kids! This is child abuse"

People are peaking in real time.

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Bluestitch · 12/05/2019 23:35

Thanks will have a listen. Anybody who is so entrenched in their 'side' of the debate that they will defend the transing of a 3 year old foster child really ought to reflect on their values.

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