Harry the Owl and others launching high court battle

I thought the whole point of hate crimes was that it was in the eye of the beholder. So if someone somewhere thought the tweets are offensive that is all that matters. So the tweets are hateful because someone said they were so there is no need for the police to review them as their opinion is not relevant?

Harry is continuing to publish the "evidence" against him. Which is really strange because the cops haven't contacted him this time. Somehow, and for some reason that nobody knows, Tweets that were transphobic 6 months ago are no longer transphobic now.

Plus, the cops are saying that they simultaneously assessed the Tweets as transphobic and also didn't review the Tweets at all.

“There were 30 tweets reported to us of a transphobic nature.” 28 January

“It cannot be inferred that we reviewed the tweets.” 6 June

twitter.com/HarryTheOwl/status/1137985003730677760

Harry intends to retweet all the Tweets this weekend.

twitter.com/HarryTheOwl/status/1137143092757372929

"Hey @Humberbeat Quick heads up: those tweets you decided were transphobic and needing intervention? I’m retweeting them all. Every one. To several thousand. I’ll be in all weekend if you want to send the Phobe Squad round".

If someone complains again, then surely Humberside cops will speak to Harry about his thinking again surely? In order to be consistent. If it was a hate incident last time then surely the exact same material is a hate incident this time?

If it was a non-crime before, then is it still a non-crime? Less of a non-crime?

Certainly look forward to Humberside cops explaining their thinking on that one.

It's just mindboggling how anyone could defend this abuse of police powers. How does this constitute part of a "hate incident"?

twitter.com/HarryTheOwl/status/1136909760647835648
I just googled this because I forgot the name (menopause strikes again) and it's now listed as CJ

How can that be?

Oh dear, just did a little unmentionable thing on the Fair Cop crowdfunder thingy.

It is fun to see mansplaining routed in black and white, especially so soundly; and even more fun when it is so clear that the explainer is not blessed with brains or facts. Thank you all for amusing me all afternoon when I have been pretty much bed-bound and congratulations on your patience,

Been banned from twitter for saying men who identify as trans should use the men’s loos alongside other men.

Could you screenshot the ‘transphobic’ tweets?

So yes, so-called "dead-naming" is irrelevant; as is the "pronouns" issue,
or what some prefer to label as "misgendering", since history of the person cannot be erased + Legal Fiction of a GRC does not change that history.

It strikes me that someone should make Humberside Police aware of the Gender Recognition Act 2004:

Section 22: Prohibition on disclosure of information

subsection 4c: But it is not an offence under this section to disclose protected information relating to a person if—

the information is protected information by virtue of subsection (2)(b) and the person by whom the disclosure is made does not know or believe that a full gender recognition certificate has been issued,

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/7/section/22

See also Section 9 Explanatory Notes, subsection 28:

"Subsection (2) provides amplification of subsection (1), making clear that the recognition is not retrospective, so the certificate does not rewrite the gender history of the transsexual person, and that the new gender applies for the interpretation of enactments, instruments and documents made before as well as after the issue of a certificate"

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/7/notes/division/4/9

The Humberside Police Cadets scheme sounds more like some sort of wokeness brainwashing programme to me 🙄

I've just done the unmentionable again, thanks in part to the ranting derailer.

Bloody women and gender critical men, yawning, blessing and saying huh.

Christ on a bike!

And the police record of the vexatious complaint hate incident reads like something out of East Germany.

It's just mindboggling how anyone could defend this abuse of police powers. How does this constitute part of a "hate incident"?

twitter.com/HarryTheOwl/status/1136909760647835648

Well done to Harry for forcing them to hand over the 31 Tweets that were reported as transphobic. Clearly the police have been reluctant to do so.

Presumably the Humberside ACC thought that if he implied in public that the police had a lot of evidence of transphobic material by Harry, then that would be the end of it.

Wrong, genius.

Power mad men making up laws instead of enforcing them.

wtf were the police thinking?

Baaa

Like all sheep.

Investigation Type: Non-crime

And still they called up Harry in order to harass him.

The limerick that the cop said Harry had liked was not in the list of evidence that Humberside have eventually forwarded to Harry. After 6 months.

Wow - they really are totally innocuous - wtf were the police thinking?

Humberside Police had made a statement at the time. Which included:

Assistant Chief Constable Scott Young : "In this case, there were more than 30 tweets reported to us of a transphobic nature, not just a liked or retweeted limerick as some reports have suggested.

That looks like libel, given that the Tweets themselves are not transphobic. Unless the police want argue in court that huh? is transphobic.

Oh dear.

Harry the Owl has finally been sent copies of the 31 Twitter comments that formed the basis of the initial complaint.

He is listing them one by one on Twitter.

twitter.com/HarryTheOwl

Apparently a Tweet saying Huh? is a hate incident.

Sons and sigh. Seems my typing is more rubbish than normal today

It is wrong for the police to interview people about things they even admit are not crimes
But my sns are cadets
Good for you, that has nothing to do with this case
But my sons don't repect you and you are saying non-binary people are not human
No one said that and thats not what the case is about
You are just like Nazis
Sign

I still support the great cadets, who work voluntarily for Humberside, 3 of the first wave are training to be either officers or PCSO's. My lad and 2 more are at university studying criminology or public service degrees to join or work in similar careers. 5 of wave two are either been evaluated for officer roles or working in civilian support roles.

It doesn't look as thought critical thinking is part of the uni courses either.

The cadet indoctrination, if it is going on, should certainly raise a red flag.

2Boys It really is simple... I quote:

‘Hurting people’s feelings is not a reason for a police investigation.’

2Boy would members of the Muslim community be happy if crimes carried out by EDL supporters were ascribed to their communities? It is just as offensive to women to have crimes committed by men ascribed to them because the man ‘feels like a women’. Also regardless of how many operations/drugs your trans identified friends have had unless they have a GRC they are self IDing.