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Jezebel.com lumps GC feminists in with the alt-right

234 replies

CaptSkippy · 11/05/2019 17:53

Yes, I know that I should not waste my time with a site like Jezebel. I saw this post a few days ago and skipped over it as total nonsense. Today I saw it trending on their front page:

jezebel.com/the-unholy-alliance-of-trans-exclusionary-radical-femin-1834120309

This must be deliberate right?

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Ereshkigal · 12/05/2019 16:02

As I said before they're also allowing all manner of TRA shit in the comments.

RussianSpamBot · 12/05/2019 15:58

Jezebel and all who sail in her have been thick as pigshit for some time.

Joisanofthedales · 12/05/2019 15:57

Is it weird that certain posters raise alarm bells for me by their pedantic phrasing and sentence construction .

Ereshkigal · 12/05/2019 15:51

DARVO.

Ereshkigal · 12/05/2019 15:50

This new "ur all misogynists" angle is novel, I'll give them that.

TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 12/05/2019 15:48

They’re basically misogynists. They view women as inherently weaker and more fragile than men. It’s just fundamentalist Christianity without God. Actually its Catholicism without God; Janice Raymond was a former nun and she was clearly still influenced by that.

Ha, one of the comments on there. Its just..bizarre really.

Ereshkigal · 12/05/2019 15:44

It's always surprising when people are taken in by disingenuous community disrupters, everywhere online. Don't you think?

GammonNosher · 12/05/2019 15:34

It's certainly surprising that people struggle to see the really quite imposing line between the two isn't it? I think it's best not to be defensive about it. I'm not a white supremacist and the idea would be unconscionable in polite society. Maybe not on mumsnet but heyyo, it's interesting to see different opinions.

TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 12/05/2019 15:29

This is entirely usual, and ridiculous of course. We are also exactly the same as nazis and such also, for believing women should have rights

GammonNosher · 12/05/2019 15:28

Ereshkigal, dear, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. It's the far right I was referring to. I was drawing a specific distinction between us and them and I mistakenly thought that would be obvious since we're not bigots. I'll try to be clearer for you in future.

CaptSkippy · 12/05/2019 12:19

Gender is the Patriarchal tool of oppression. The very last thing any feminist should want is having it enshrined in law.
But it has been for a very long time. Paris still has a law that prohibts women from wearing trousers in public. We still laugh about this, but the direction we are heading in is that just could be enforced just to validated men's ideas of what we are.

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Ereshkigal · 12/05/2019 11:51

Imagine thinking that second rate trolling of a feminist board is a worthwhile way to spend ones time. Those Jezebel commenters, eh! What are they like?

Ereshkigal · 12/05/2019 11:49

"Deny my existence, expect resistance"

Oh we know they exist, all right.

Ereshkigal · 12/05/2019 11:48

LOL

Pretty sure we all see trans people as people here. You've been listening to the "you don't want me to exist because you don't believe I'm a lady" hyperbole, haven't you?

GammonNosher · 12/05/2019 09:13

Imagine not being able to see a vulnerable group as people and having that form a core of your ideology. Thanks for putting the differences between us and them into perspective.

CaptSkippy · 12/05/2019 09:10

There are times when radical feminist have some common ground with conservatives regarding porn and prostitution. However the reasons are never the same. Feminists want freedom from exploitation and objectification. Conservatives just want to punish women because they can't see us as people.

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Goosefoot · 11/05/2019 20:01

I also wonder, where is the analysis?

People don't know how to do analysis anymore. They don't know what it means.

The whole thing is no surprise, they label anyone who says something they disagree with ,who doesn't seem to be a religious conservative, as "alt-right".

EmpressLesbianInChair · 11/05/2019 19:56
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FermatsTheorem · 11/05/2019 19:54

To pay for the lizard food, of course, Empress. Durr....

EmpressLesbianInChair · 11/05/2019 19:53

I heard it was the Kremlin. Big Pharma and the Bilderberg group too. And that bunch of lizards that Prince Philip heads up.

Then why do we still have crowdfunders?????

AlwaysComingHome · 11/05/2019 19:39

I heard it was the Kremlin.

Big Pharma and the Bilderberg group too.

And that bunch of lizards that Prince Philip heads up.

FermatsTheorem · 11/05/2019 19:37

k losing track of who’s supposed to be funding me, the Alt-Right or ISIS.

I heard it was the Kremlin.

Corbyn was photographed with a woman carrying an "adult human female" bag, so I'm just waiting for my pay cheque from Momentum. It is in the post, isn't it, Jezza?

TemporaryPermanent · 11/05/2019 19:29

I don't think it's nonsense but I disagree. I also wonder, where is the analysis? What is feminism? what is a woman? Why is there indeed a bit of common ground between a right wing view of sex roles, and a feminist analysis of sex? Instead it's an extensive 'this happened and then this happened' larded with unanalysed subjectivity. I also like the quotes though.

EmpressLesbianInChair · 11/05/2019 19:18

k losing track of who’s supposed to be funding me, the Alt-Right or ISIS.

I heard it was the Kremlin.

OldCrone · 11/05/2019 19:17

Wow, there's a lot of quoting radical feminists directly in the article, repeating their arguments word for word. Is Esther sure that's a good idea? People might find themselves agreeing.

It's quite a who's who of feminism. Lots of names I know, some I'm less familiar with so might now seek out. Thanks, Esther.

One question for the author, though. What is a woman?