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Female-only taxi service plans blocked by Glasgow City Council for being 'sexist'

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stealthsquirrelnutkin · 10/05/2019 21:54

"A proposal by Margo Welsh to start Rosy and Pink Cars, offering female drivers to female passengers and their children, was dismissed yesterday by licensing chiefs at Glasgow City Council .

Welsh was prompted to launch the service after seeing "the amount of sex attacks in this day and age," but councillors branded the plan "sexist"."

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/female-only-taxi-service-plans-15025489?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

A I wrong in thinking they are ignoring equality law and that this should be considered a permitted exemption?

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RoyalCorgi · 11/05/2019 15:07

Worth remembering that in one year there were 32 reports of rapes/sexual assaults by Uber drivers in London:

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/uber-drivers-accused-of-32-rapes-and-sex-attacks-on-london-passengers-a7037926.html

stealthsquirrelnutkin · 11/05/2019 14:59

when the cab arrives it is almost always a bloke behind the wheel.

What do you do when that happens? If you get the taxi, then they’re going to keep doing it.

I book taxis to get to important appointments. If I don't get in the cab I miss the appointment. So I get in the cab and then use a different firm the next time.

I've now used all the available firms in this area and they have all proved to be unreliable and not the slightest bit bothered. Obviously, like the misogynists on Glasgow Council, they don't believe there is any genuine reason why a woman would require a woman driver.

Perhaps they too dismiss me as a man hating sexist, and send out male drivers on purpose in an attempt to re-educate me? Perhaps they have a good guffaw at the thought of my saggy titted old self being so deluded as to think any of them would be tempted to rape me? Or perhaps they don't have many women drivers because it's not a safe job for women, and the ones they do have tend to only do the school runs?

All I do know is that if there was a firm that only hired women drivers they would get my custom. As would any female plumber, electrician, carpenter, gardener, decorator and odd job woman. I wish there was a national register of female centred businesses, but of course any woman on such a register would risk being targeted by angry perverts, who think the same way as Glasgow Council and are mortally offended by women trying to prioritise other women.

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AgentCooper · 11/05/2019 13:49

I think it’s a brilliant idea. I live in Glasgow. My sister had a horrible experience with a taxi driver once and ended up walking the rest of her way home.

S1naidSucks · 11/05/2019 13:47

when the cab arrives it is almost always a bloke behind the wheel.

What do you do when that happens? If you get the taxi, then they’re going to keep doing it.

S1naidSucks · 11/05/2019 13:46

Excuse the angry spelling mistakes.

S1naidSucks · 11/05/2019 13:46

The irony of all the shit that women have to put up with, when they are assaulted or worse. “Why did you walk that way/by yourself/drunk/in the dark, etc?” Women are even being told on fucking police posters what THEY should do t9 prevent themselves from being raped, but when some women want to creat a women only service, they’re told they don’t need it. Misogynistic, women hating assholes.

stealthsquirrelnutkin · 11/05/2019 13:19

Can you ask for a female driver when ordering a taxi?

You can ask. I always do. However, even when I book several days in advance and have been promised a woman driver, when the cab arrives it is almost always a bloke behind the wheel.

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TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 11/05/2019 12:28

Or jumping in a black cab, which I refuse to do because..well..pervs. Too many bad experiences. I will only use one if out with my husband.

TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 11/05/2019 12:27

Why would that be the case? Many councils limit the number of licences.

OK I didn't know that. In that case, our council really needs to lighten up with the restrictions, as it seems near impossible to get taxis here unless booked days in advance!

LassOfFyvie · 11/05/2019 11:52

Surely this would benefit blokes anyway as the usual taxi services would have more free cabs so less waiting time

Why would that be the case? Many councils limit the number of licences. What you are saying would only be the case if they added extra women only drivers and there were enough female only passengers wanting to use them.

TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 11/05/2019 11:49

Would allow female drivers to be a bit safer too. The stories I am told from the female ones here are horrendous..the male oines tend to have a few stories too mind but its not quite to the same extent, women are targetted, which should be no shock. If I was a taxi driver, I would hate doing runs alone with a drunk bloke. I know people will say its a hazard o the job, but..of course it shouldn't be.

LassOfFyvie · 11/05/2019 11:48

Obviously one can ask but do taxi companies accommodate this?

TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 11/05/2019 11:48

Ugh. Surely this would benefit blokes anyway as the usual taxi services would have more free cabs so less waiting time. The only men this will inconvenience are the fucking pervs, and god forbid we make things a fraction harder fo them eh.

LassOfFyvie · 11/05/2019 11:38

Can you ask for a female driver when ordering a taxi?

snowbear66 · 11/05/2019 11:25

It's such a good idea.
Lone female travelling from nightclubs would be so much safer.
I bet there was scant consideration given to the benefits (of not being raped/murdered) to women.
As if male taxi drivers would miss out on a tiny bespoke service offered to women.

grafittiartist · 11/05/2019 10:35

I can see that a train is a different situation. I'm just sad that this is the solution. Women having to change what they do, not men.
I still concerned about the responsibility of decision/ choice though. That would become a question for a court- "why did you not chose a female driver".
But- I totally support women's right to organise and use single sex facilities. And the law protects this, so I think that Glasgow are on dodgy ground.

Orchidoptic · 11/05/2019 10:35

Regular=‘non-leery types

Orchidoptic · 11/05/2019 10:35

I would feel safer with a female taxi driver. NATDALT, but I find being leered at very unsettling. Plus, with just regular taxi drivers I don’t use a seatbelt in case I need to get out quickly.

HappydaysArehere · 11/05/2019 10:11

Where I used to live female taxi drivers were allocated in the main to female passengers, especially pregnant ones going to hospital, women with children. It was very popular at the time. I should imagine it added security for the drivers as well.

LassOfFyvie · 11/05/2019 10:07

There's other practicalities in relation to a female driver picking up a mixed sex group only if the last drop off is female. That may simply be inconvenient and expensive for the passengers.

I don't see any particular reason why the service should not be offered if drivers and passengers want it but in practice not sure if it will be viable.

LassOfFyvie · 11/05/2019 09:58

Over the years, I have seen adverts for various mini cab firms for women but they never seem to have taken off. I don’t know why

Possibly for the reasons here- being discouraged by the licensing authority. Possibly lack of interest/ lack of sufficient drivers. It isn't a service I would use. I want a taxi when I need it. If the first taxi available is driven by a man I would not pass that up to wait for a female driver.

I don't know if there would be more female drivers if they were free to only have female passengers. Even then for it to be viable for female drivers they would need a significant number of women to want a female driver and there simply may not be the demand.

bd67th · 11/05/2019 09:13

FFS did these councillors learn nothing from John Worboys?

I would feel safer with a female driver.

Genderfreelass · 11/05/2019 08:46

I agree Molten trains and taxis are different entirely. On a train you can move to a carriage with more people, you can't do that in a taxi. I hope they fight this decision and win!

MoltenLasagne · 11/05/2019 08:23

A train is very different to a taxi though - in a train you’ll be surrounded by many other members of the public whereas in a taxi you will frequently be alone as a single female with a male driver. It’s a very different dynamic and there’s no end of stories about how this has led to women being assaulted and raped and in some cases even killed. A female only cab company is the perfect example of a proportionate measure in this context.

Upzadaizy · 11/05/2019 08:01

People misunderstand the power dynamics of sexism. It’s not a level playing field. Women as a class can’t be sexist, because sexism is the shorthand word we use to refer to the whole unequal power dynamics of patriarchy.

I think an all-female taxi service would be brilliant. After all, it’s not women drivers who’ve raped hundreds of female passengers. That’s a male crime statistic