Stephen Fry backs P Tatchell's call to revise sex education

Yes he wrote a letter to,times about how some children were not affected by having sex at an early age

Think it was in hold on going to look on twitter

But did see twitter thread where tatchell the parent of no one thinking this sexing of our kids is great idea

Ffs.

Is there some sort of conspiracy going on ?

Am not bonkers but seems like all this attention of blurring boundaries and sexualising of kids is very very weird

This is in the lesson plan for 16 and older. No need for the pill or condoms, when masturbating or with oral sex. Does he know how the pill works? What happens if two 16 year olds have oral sex one day and next decide to have PIV sex that it's fine, just take the pill and your protected.

truthisarevolutionaryact; I'm with you. A few years ago I never would have imagined that we could have ended up here and would have dismissed those who made claims to such as crazy. But we only have to look at the facts...

Merry I was shocked by that idea.
The most effective way to persuade teenagers to switch to these alternatives is by making them look and sound appealing, glamorous and sexy; explaining that they can be sexually fulfilling and emphasising their advantages over intercourse: no worries about unwanted conceptions, reduced HIV risk and no need to use the pill or condoms.

Yes junafora. Exactly what tatchell and people like him want

After all he thinks that some children enjoy sex

Lizzie

Do they have qualifications? No.

Do they have experience? In the words of semi-legal eagle doorstopper Hayden, PT has "no current convictions" pertaining to any experience with child sexuality.

What makes PT or SF think they have any say in how children should learn about sex? Do they have any relevant experience or qualification in child education/ sex education?

There was a time when I would have thought that what JuniFora said was paranoid. But no longer.
Sexualising the youngest of children (think Desmond), removing safeguarding from vulnerable groups, encouraging teachers and other adults to transition children in secret, removing parental responsibility / rights, undermining children's boundaries and rights to say no, Tatchell's demands about sex education in schools and so on. All happening in plain sight

The bit about having to pick your child up and then bring them back at the end of the lesson if you want to opt out.

Have they any idea how secondary schools actually work?

i think stephen fry once stole a credit card and is a criminal and a a sanctimonious creep

Sex education is extremely important and few would oppose that. The Danish and Icelandics do it very well and we should follow them. They're open, honest, pro women and pro children.

However, there's a world of difference between education and indoctrination.

Their insistence that parents should have no say on what their children are taught is typical of people who are trying to force a sinister agenda. It's nothing to do with the child's rights or education, it's about separating the child from their parents protection so they can be groomed and manipulated by abusers who want to force their issues on them.

There are groups with a long term goal to get rid of the age of consent by giving the children "sexual rights". This is why they're heavily promoting the transing of very young children who don't fit gender stereotypes. It's ultimately to take power of protection from the parents by threatening to take their kids if they don't participate in the manipulation of their child, threatening to take the careers of teachers and doctors who dare stand up to it, to make everybody scared to speak out because they'll be destroyed as a "hateful person"...

When everybody's silenced, they own your kids. Then they can say, if a fourteen year old can have a sex change, they can have sex... When they get that reduced, they'll say "but eight year old can change sex, why can't they have it?". There's an agenda. We can all feel it being pushed but it's a bait and switch.

I wouldn't let Tatchell or any of his associates near my kid, let alone provide a forced "sex" talk. What he has admitted in public about his opinion that young children aren't harmed and may even enjoy sexual abuse by adults, is disturbing. That says everything about him and the company he keeps.

The new buzz word in five/ten years will be peadophobe... You don't let me near your kid, you peadophobe. It sounds crazy now but unless this agenda is stopped, it's coming.

It's the complete lack of boundaries - the assumption that it is a school's place to teach children about sexual pleasure in Tatchell's compulsory mixed sex groups.

That's queering the curriculum for you. These people think childhood is a social construct, all our knowledge of child development is bunkum (conveniently) and we're all sexual beings from the day we were born.

The absolute last people who should be anywhere near schools.

Peter Tatchell should be kept well away from a) children and b) anything pertaining to children. The same, it would appear, should go for Stephen Fry.

Stephen Fry is creepy... that's all.

"Are you out of your fucking mind?"

This is so my internal monologue most of the time atm.

Twitter comment:

"Are you out of your fucking mind?"

Perfect.

The replies to this tweet are gold. I need to make a new Twitter account.

This is just wrong on so many levels. The words used on the website such as 'explicit'

Specific sex education should begin from the first year of secondary school and become explicit from the age of 16 – not in order to promote sex, but to ensure happy and safe sexual and emotional relations for those teenagers who become sexually active.
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Sex is described as wholesome* which just sounds creepy

Love the way pornography and abuse are thrown in for good measure to try and throw people off the scent that this is being done in good faith

It's actually very scary

There is lots of sex advice online that isn’t porn.

Stephen Fry didn’t even go to a mixed sex school.

Something does need to be done to improve sex education, sex shouldn’t be a dirty word and talking about sex really shouldn’t be a taboo.

I didn’t get any sex education, we were removed from all the lessons at school (yes, even the ones covered in science) and nothing was ever mentioned about sex at all at home.

The problem is the only place to find anything out is porn, that was my only sex ed and the thought of having to let (because when you think it’s normal, you don’t realise that choice comes in to it) anyone do that to me was terrifying, but when you’re educated via porn you don’t know what normal expectations actually are. How I didn’t end up absolutely riddled as a teen is an actual miracle.

If you want young people to have a healthy view of sex, then it’s something that needs to be talked about and normalised. Obviously finding the best way to achieve that is difficult, and there will always be someone that is unhappy, but the most important thing is fully informed young people who can be safe, say no and feel confident doing it, rather than being considered ‘frigid’.

Floral

Absolutely spot on description of what the reality of such "lessons" would be, especially for the girls.

Crossposted!