Does anyone worry about being sacked over Trans debate?

Although I will say that I'm the Social Media Manager so when my company started getting tweets about me I was able to deal with it without anyone seeing them.

Yes. It would bring a storm down on my organisation, too.

I am trying to find an exit strategy because the feeling of being gagged, dishonest and the loss of free speech is disturbing my mental health.

I feel the same. I wonder if we are in the same workplace...

No, and if anyone tried to fire anyone for their views on reality and women’s rights I would fight it tooth and nail and win.

No, not at all. In fact my current 'employer' (I'm a carer) is herself very vocal on the subject of women's rights.

I was a student until last year and there was obviously a degree (no pun intended ) of wokeness but if the subject came up, I was openly GC because I'm not being told that women's rights, safety, privacy and dignity are transphobic. I was always pretty straightforward in asserting that women must matter equally and I was pleasantly surprised at how many students agreed with me.

ArgyMargy what's the point of your question? Do you really think that she should chill out about sharing intimate space with a male-bodied person she experiences as "frankly intimidating"? Why don't her feelings matter?

Yes. I work in a public sector organisation which is well and truly dosed up on kool aid. I was swithering last night about a policy which has conflated sex and gender and I still haven't decided whether to broach the subject or not.

I agree Maya's case is so important and hopefully will allow us all to express our lack of belief in gender.

I'm self-employed but my industry is getting woker by the day so my professional membership could be at risk.

No. I'm a lawyer in a fairly old school firm. All my colleagues are completely on board and in fact encouraging when I do any activism. They all think the situation is bonkers.

Yes. That's all I'm saying.

@isabellerossignol sorry to be ignorant but what do you think would happen in the toilets if you were in there at the same time as your transgender colleague?

Yes. I am also wondering that if Maya’s legal case succeeds, whether this will provide us with precedent which can be used to invoke an option of something like legal conscientious objection, to some of the things that woke workplaces may be considering like enforcing pronouns declarations at work and making women share toilets with male-bodied people who self-ID as a woman or have a GRC. (Which is a certificate that you can’t legally ask to see so we might as well have legal sex selfID in the UK..)
Genderism is provably a belief system only. A set of political beliefs not based in material reality. That is all fine of course, people can believe what they like. I don’t share the belief.

Nobody would expect us to go along with religious practices and customs we didn’t share within a secular space like our workplace. I don’t see why this is different.

The law provides that you can opt out of various things on the basis of religious belief. So I think you should be able to opt out of what is essentially workplaces enforcing a religious observance, if you don’t share that belief, with no penalty attached. That would respect the freedom of everyone and it would penalise nobody at all.

I hope the fact that Maya has 63040 ‘shows of support’ on that thing which can not be mentioned, gives some women on here comfort that the worm (no matter what it identifies as) is turning. Truth will out.

Yes but if my company started on that road I would put up one hell of a fight (with the threat of the publicity that would bring with it). Also it would be quite an own goal for the trans lobby because at the moment I am limited to assisting #StickerWoman, posting here and on twitter and having conversations in RL. If I got sacked of this I would no longer be constrained and I would dedicate the time and energy that I put into my job into the GC movement.

Thank you, Joisan, but at this point it's more desperation than actual bravery!

I really am at the "fuck it, fuck them all" point over this.

Yes, possibly. Creative industry which has a lot of liberal lefty woke young things. But also old farts like me who understand the meaning of words.

Yep. Public sector.

Archeryannie
I am in awe of your bravery.

And to add, one of the things that gives me courage is all the other women who have been openly gender-crit way, way before me. There's a certain amount of safety in numbers, so the more of us come out, the safer it is for everyone.

(But I know this isn't possible for a lot of women.)

I do worry about it, because IRL I am in a job where I am openly known to be gender-critical, and the organisation has gone full woke. I don't have any savings, and I am at the time in my life where job hunting becomes increasingly difficult. Losing my job would mean real hardship for me, and it's a real possibility.

But fuck that. I am terrified of the risk, but after tip-toeing around for so long, I find myself also at a point in my life where I just can't keep quiet about this. If they do sack me, they will have a wonderful opportunity to find out just how much trouble I can be. (But yes, I'll be utterly screwed.)

Yes, especially as biology is now hate speech, which could be considered gross misconduct to instant dismissal.

No, because I'm retired, and even in my last job it would be OK because it was a German hospital and people there do know the difference between male and female and Germany on the whole has not caught up with the woke generation.

BUT -- I have another quite public life and career and for the moment I have to keep my head down because if I were to out myself as GC I'd have a Twitter mob after me and I could do without that at this stage of my professional life. It's a thing.

Uh huh. Not that the actual people are esp woke (in fact all the women I know appear to be quietly GC) but if we were seen to be...

No. I work in a pretty unwoke environment. However it's the sort of unwoke which also means 'what men want is more important than women's rights'. It's probably a matter of time until a colleague transitions (IT), and then life will get tricky.

Theone I agree, work less of an issue than professional regulator.