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Resource thread with concrete examples of men being grim in unisex toilets

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ArcheryAnnie · 09/05/2019 18:53

Just that, really. Am fed up with men who don't close the door in unisex toilets, and at this point I don't really care if it's because they are lazy thoughtless bastards or because they want that "oh dear, silly me, I'd forgotten to lock the door" moment when strangers see their dick.

Today's example: was in a CAHMS building, ie somewhere that is expressly designed to be full of vulnerable children and teenagers. One unisex accessible loo. Yet another bloody man who "forgot" to lock it. Terribly apologetic, of course.

At least this guy closed the door. It's so common that they don't even bother to do that.

Fuck him. Fuck them all. I am so fed up with it.

Please post your concrete examples here. Because unisex loos are so marvellous for everyone, aren't they?

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OhHolyJesus · 11/05/2019 22:39

After attending Lesbians on Chairs today I used a unisex loo in Café Nero. Loo seat was up, covered my hand with loo roll to put it down, piss literally all on the top of the seat.

I asked my DH how that could have happened and he thought the man before me would have lifted it up after the man before him pissed all over it.

Disgusting.

InterestingShipNames · 11/05/2019 14:34

I went to the loo at the interval of an amateur concert. Someone had put paper signs over the ladies and gents saying unisex. These were flimsy individual cubicles with a shared sink in a church hall. The one I entered did not have a sanitary bin. So basically, they’d turned them all into the gents.

I did complain to a (very embarrassed) chap about the lack of sanitary bins, but I couldn’t find the words to explain why I really didn’t like the set up and found it scary.

GammonNosher · 11/05/2019 13:47

Yeah not only are they animals but they're basically aphids so the perfume repels em. Did you know aphids reproduce asexually? Coincidence? Hardly.

CadburysTastesVileNow · 11/05/2019 11:01

I have found that if you spray a lot of perfume around, men will go elsewhere cos they don't want to smell of it

Whoopstheregomyinsides · 11/05/2019 07:34

Hate unisex toilets for all of the above reasons. Dirt and intimidation being main ones.

Givemealittkewan · 10/05/2019 22:11

@ArcheryAnnie

I believe there should be toilers for us all to chose from but add unisex toilets. Let's not remove M & F. I believe in choice but if there's only unisex how can I decide??

I gave seen many males in unisex toilets forget to close the door, not because they are perverts or have any ulterior motives but because it's habit.

Just like I have sometimes sprayed deodorant or replied make up at the sinks, I've even seen ladies in airports have a quick freshen up under the arms with wipes, it's habit. We shouldn't be feeling uncomfortable.

My most probably very unpopular opinion is three Sets of toilets. M F & Unisex

Erythronium · 10/05/2019 21:51

Another one here:

www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/peeping-tom-banned-every-ladies-12570304

He won't have a problem when all the toilets are unisex.

Erythronium · 10/05/2019 21:46

I worked with a man who'd been arrested for peering over the women's toilet cubicles at a station He made a lot of money for the company so they didn't care.

Sizeofalentil · 10/05/2019 21:42

One unisex toilet in a multi-office building I used to work at was frequently splattered in spunk on a Friday afternoon.

So if you didn't look when you sat down or went to flush you would likely touch congealed jizz.

Heaven forbid they should have wanked in the male cubicle, or wiped u after themselves (or perhaps wanked at home).

Trousering · 10/05/2019 20:21

I used to run a pub with separate toilets for men and women. I employed a regular as a cleaner, he was a lovely chap in his sixties in a decline from a less than Stella career if you get the inference. He was rewarded at the end of the shit shift with a pint of Guinness on the house, and always reported to the bar as Captain Underblast in homage to his incredulity that men managed to get shit everywhere, even blasted right up under the rim. He is dead now.

Kilbranan · 10/05/2019 19:46

I agree with another poster that female only and unisex toilets is only way forward for all these woke companies who are so desperate to be inclusive they’ve forgotten the whole point of having sex segregation when people are in state of undress

AnyFucker · 10/05/2019 19:42

Indeed Jay

Jayblue · 10/05/2019 18:14

@AnyFucker

Schools who have done the floor to ceiling thing have to make sure that toilets are somehow open-able from the outside for all sorts of reasons, from self harm to children simply getting stuck. Unfortunately, many of these mechanisms can also be easily opened by teenage boys.

At the very least, they should be a choice only- never the only option!

Jayblue · 10/05/2019 18:12

I know of an incident where a man (who would have been DBS checked due to their profession) put hidden cameras in a unisex toilet and a female staff toilet that he had access too.

Single sex toilets with female only access, please.

Knowing of this incident has made me very aware that you cannot trust anyone.

AnyFucker · 10/05/2019 18:10

Sorry for the derail.

I am in agreement with the unisex toilets crap. I don't want floor to ceiling cubicles either and have actually done a 180 on this as I hadn't originally considered the safety aspect of someone getting pushed inside one and being fully enclosed.

Grim. Grim. Grim. All round.

AnyFucker · 10/05/2019 18:05

I took a peek at that Skye Oran You Tube video and felt very uncomfortable Hmm

But it did introduce me to the wonderful Cosmic Barber ASMR stuff. So thanks Smile

GraceMarks · 10/05/2019 18:01

One of the first cases I attended as a trainee police officer was a man who had been going round sticking his head under the cubicle doors in one of those unisex "changing villages" at a water park. He had been caught perving at a 10 year old girl. The gaps under the cubicle doors were fucking massive, and this place was obviously much-used by families with young kids. I never went there again after that.

mirime · 10/05/2019 17:49

What is it with not locking doors? When I went to Glastonbury (and god known the toilets are grim enough anyway) I quickly learnt to look away as I opened the door just in case there was a man in there, never happened with a woman - in fact women would team up in random groups looking for a decent toilet, when one of us found one we'd call out and we'd all queue up and use that one, it just seemed to happen spontaneously!

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 10/05/2019 17:37

My Oxford college in the 1990s had mixed toilets.
I accidentally walked in on a male student pissing with the door open and he took offence, followed me back to my room and wrote 'dyke' all over my door.

I bloody hated that place. So happy to graduate.

pachyderm · 10/05/2019 17:25

I worked as a cleaner when I was young. You get the odd manky woman but I can confirm the men's toilets are FAR more disgusting. Even in my current workplace (shiny corporate office) I heard there's apparently a mystery bloke leaving the gents in a horrible state and it's become a management issue. There's no excuse for an educated professional man to behave like such a pig, except that he can😣

GammonNosher · 10/05/2019 12:04

Sorry Linda I think I just misunderstood the general tone of the thread. I thought being unsympathetic was the point.

NeurotrashWarrior · 10/05/2019 11:38

This wasn't a unisex loo.

I was recovering from my csection on the ward with my newborn.

The ward has changed to allow men to stay over; they sleep on the floor or the ridiculously uncomfortable chairs.

I was next to the ward loo - clearly marked for patients only as it was where you went to measure lochia. So cardboard tubs stacked high, emergency cord to pull etc.

Very irritatingly lazy partner of a woman (lazy as she had begged him for 3 hours to get her a cuppa in the morning - he was too tired apparently - before the breakfast came with tea which he had too) - used it several times in the night. I felt uncomfortable and vulnerable as he had to pass so close to my bed.

Left the seat up and there was urine splatters.

I wouldn't have minded if it was a woman who'd just given birth. We were the only people on the ward and the other mother didn't use the loo.

YouJustDoYou · 10/05/2019 11:24

They're fucking animals. Literally. I've both had to use, against my wishes (no other segregated toilets or washing facilities) unisex bathrooms and showers as well as being a cleaner for both male and female toilets and it is absolutely fucking disgusting and awful. Pubes on the floor and toilet seat where they wank, piss everywhere (literally everywhere), shit stains, leaving the door open, and one time waiting for me to come out of the shower so he could give me a long look up and down and commented on how delicious I was looking in my towel. It's vile, they're vile, it's just horrible.

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 10/05/2019 11:23

Does anyone remember the thread with the man who brought his daughter to counselling and then sat and ate pasties and used the unisex loo and stank it out to high heaven?
Every Saturday for weeks, I think it was.

I don't feel safe in unisex toilets.
So I tend to not use them.
It's the only time I get UTIs.

I remember going to Go Feminist conference. They made the ground floor women's toilet unisex. The men's was still single sex.

Due to the nature of the conference (was intended to be intersectional) there were lots of wheelchair -users in attendance so I didn't want to keep the accessible loo busy.
But I could not manage the stairs to the upstairs toilet.

I realize it's unlikely anyone would have shouted at me if I had used an accessible toilet but I'm autistic and things deviating from the norm can take me a long time to think through.

hoodathunkit · 10/05/2019 11:13

No thread about the violation of women’s privacy in public toilets is complete without reference to the notorious Porta Potty Peeper Luke Chrisco aka Skye Oryan

Chrisco’s predilection for voyeurism was discovered initially when he was discovered hiding inside the septic tank of a porta potty at a yoga festival in Boulder, Colorado.

An unfortunate woman at the festival attempted to use the toilet facilities when she was alarmed to notice something moving below. She reported her concerns to the yoga festival security and a security officer examined the facilities and saw a man hiding in the tank. 10 minutes later the man was seen fleeing from the porta potty while covered in human waste. He was not captured at that point (who wants to arrest a man covered in faeces?) but was arrested for panhandling soon afterwards and subsequently found to be the Porta Potty Peeper.

www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/toilet/colorado-toilet-tank-arrest-649031

Police investigations discovered that Chrisco had installed peep holes into the women’s toilets in various locations including the new age “university” the Naropa Institute.

denver.cbslocal.com/2011/06/27/portable-toilet-peeper-boulder-additional-charges/

Chrisco’s claims to worship women as goddesses (claims that are made by many new age pimps, rapists and sex traffickers) are significantly undermined by his pimping out of his then teenage girlfriend in “spiritual pornography” and escort websites as detailed in the Smoking Gun website here
www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/toilet/toliet-tank-arrestee-new-age-pornographer-764589

Chrisco’s youtube channel can be found under the name of Skye Oryan and includes videos of him massaging unsuspecting women at new age and yoga festivals

an example here

and his hateful opinions towards women such as detailed here

It will come as no surprise to anyone at all familiar with new age grifters that Mr Chrisco identifies as a “sovereign citizen”

caselaw.findlaw.com/us-10th-circuit/1876883.html

To my knowledge Chrisco does not ID as trans. I am including some links to his various crimes and enterprises here as he is worthy of study and scrutiny by anyone with an interest in protecting safe spaces for women.

He is also of very significant interest as someone who aspired to reach the dizzy heights of a tantric / goddess spirituality sex cult leader but who ended up in jail. Be warned ladies, there are many men just like him who are not in jail but who are living the sex cult leader dream and sexually and financially exploiting women and children (and men too) via their tantric and goddess spirituality cults.

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