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Converse shoes promoting Desmond is Amazing

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GeordieGenes · 08/05/2019 23:10

Converse shoes (in America) have brought out a range of shoes to celebrate 50 years of Pride:

www.converse.com/c/pride

So far, so good.

Except that one of their models is Desmond, who is labelled on the Converse website as an 11-year old "Drag Kid"...

Converse have been called out by "An Open Secret" on Twitter are are getting a surprising amount of support:

twitter.com/i/web/status/1126091839596105728

It absolutely baffles me that a big company like Converse would choose to be associated with this. I will never buy from them now, which is a shame, as their "Pride" collection is quite cool otherwise!

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OrchidInTheSun · 11/05/2019 06:24

If you have an autistic child who eats a limited diet then you find ways of getting calories into them, you get medical advice.

You don't get them involved in advertising, dancing in strip clubs and working with bondage gear designers

DpWm · 10/05/2019 22:24

I think someone up thread pointed out that autism can often limit someone's diet, which would explain a bit, but none of us know really.

Goosefoot · 10/05/2019 21:48

appears to be more emaciated every time I see him.

I wonder if they might be trying to keep him younger looking?

Of course that is speculation, it could be all kinds of things.

Goosefoot · 10/05/2019 21:46

My feeling has been that knowing your sexuality as a child is often about looking back when you are older, and understanding what you were thinking and feeling from a more mature perspective.

But it's one thing to look back, and another to still be the child, or an adult looking at someone who is still a child, and defining what they are in these adult terms. Because there are people that look back as adults and realise their childhood interpretation was wrong.

FloralBunting · 10/05/2019 21:21

It's not that he may or may not be gay that is giving everyone the heebyjeebies. It's the fact that, with the backing and encouragement of his parents, he is being so overtly sexualized, dancing in front of adults in a sexual manner and frankly, appears to be more emaciated every time I see him.

No 11 year old has a 'true self' as a sexy dancer in clubs where men go to find sex partners. Anyone who thinks they do needs to have a visit from Plod.

Erythronium · 10/05/2019 21:15

I'm sure children do know they're gay at an early age but using his sexuality as a publicity and money-earning device is horrific.

Goosefoot · 10/05/2019 21:11

Are they really saying he's gay? At 11?

I think a large number of people will accept this. I remember Oprah very passionately teller her audience that her gay guests knew as small kids that they were gay, and that it was out of touch to think that there was any need to hold off on judgement with children. This was back in the early 90s I think.

Motheroffeminists · 10/05/2019 21:07

A fucking rainbow sandwich?! Just when you think you've heard it all. It's cringeable how companies are falling over themselves in their desperate attempts to be woke.

Erythronium · 10/05/2019 19:08

Are they really saying he's gay? At 11? Yes, still very dodgy. I'm trying to think of an equivalent with children being used as icons of heterosexuality but I can't. Children's sexuality usually remains their business until they are a lot older. It's certainly not for public consumption with someone making an actual career out of it.

M&S have an LBGT sandwich on their shelves now Motheroffeminists. With rainbows.

Justhadathought · 10/05/2019 09:59

I think his mum shows up on that thread agressively defending "her son's right to be his true self" or something. Everyone can see it for what it is. Putting your son in the gaze (and company) of paedophiles because you gain $$$ for it. She's pimping him out

Slightly different context, but does remind me of the two mothers of the boys abused by Michael Jackson. Overlooking that which got in the way of the larger picture of what association with Jackson brought.

DpWm · 10/05/2019 09:53

Motheroffeminusrs
I agree completely.
I was in Sainsbury's looking at summer head gear for my son, he was asking for a cap.
They'd sold out of boys caps so I went to look in the girls section, sometimes girls get quite nice/neutral items. Nope. They were all daft Lacey things apart from one, Ah! denim! I thought. BUT it had a rainbow across the front I would have maybe once upon a time thought, well what's wrong with a little boy wearing a denim cap with a small rainbow? But I literally recoiled because of the associations in my head about the whole Stonewall/Abusive/TRA stuff.
It's ruined my perspective 😥

Still haven't found him a cap either. It's mad they're either horrid Army style for boys or shit impractical style for girls! Sorry, tangent.

Motheroffeminists · 10/05/2019 09:16

I have an intense hatred of rainbows on anything other than the sky since all this bollocks started. And rainbows are bloody everywhere 😡

SarahTancredi · 10/05/2019 07:17

Ffs

More thought goes into what eyeliner someone buys than who people chose to associate with.

Rainbows. That all they see. Jump on the woke wagon and dont even remotely check out behind the scenes.

I bet they wouldnt buy something on Ebay without checking out feedback on the seller...

GirlDownUnder · 10/05/2019 07:02

Desmond isn't L, B, G or T so are they saying he's Q?

According to his parents, he's gay.

And he's known for years he's gay.

He's 11 ffs.

So yes, I agree That's dodgy as fuck.

Genderfreelass · 09/05/2019 23:33

Glad to see the comments are very much against an 11 year old being used/abused and converse are loosing a lot of customers by the look of it!

OldCrone · 09/05/2019 22:19

That clip really is disturbing, Erythronium. How can anyone look at that and think what is being done to that child is OK?

StopThePlanet · 09/05/2019 22:03

AlwaysComingHome

The downside of being an atheist is I don’t believe there’s a Hell for Desmond’s parents to burn in.

Seconded

Erythronium · 09/05/2019 21:55

Someone posted this little video clip of Desmond on the Twitter thread. So disturbing:

twitter.com/DatNigNotorious/status/1125863266004152320

Erythronium · 09/05/2019 21:47

Desmond isn't L, B, G or T so are they saying he's Q? That's dodgy as fuck.

AlwaysComingHome · 09/05/2019 20:18

The downside of being an atheist is I don’t believe there’s a Hell for Desmond’s parents to burn in.

StopThePlanet · 09/05/2019 20:15

Damnit I love my Chucks - I guess DH will be pleased (he says they make feet look like skis) - they're pretty beat up (was ready for new pair) so in the trash they go. Can't part with my Nike cross-trainers yet - too expensive and barely worn-in. I won't be buying Nike or Converse in the future though. Too bad for them as I go through exercise and fun sneakers like water.

Poor Desmond 😪

Motheroffeminists · 09/05/2019 11:14

Ffs. Once my 3 have grown out of their converse (this summer probably) they won't be bought any more.

DpWm · 09/05/2019 09:32

I think his mum shows up on that thread agressively defending "her son's right to be his true self" or something.
Everyone can see it for what it is. Putting your son in the gaze (and company) of paedophiles because you gain $$$ for it. She's pimping him out.
Converse are also pimping him out. It's just wtf all over.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 09/05/2019 08:31

Converse is owned by Nike.... for about 15 years.

AlwaysComingHome · 09/05/2019 00:12

At least Nike only financially exploited children; they didn’t pimp them out.