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Fantastic article by Graham Linehan

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Nephilim1964 · 08/05/2019 18:53

He's taking a break but he's left us with this. I may have cried a little...

medium.com/@glinner/goodbye-to-all-this-bf13c22bf0d3

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Flippin · 08/05/2019 21:37

Thanks, Glinner! It won’t be the same without you. My husband is very aware of the issues around trans ideology also due to your brave and eloquent stance.

Daughterofmabel · 08/05/2019 21:33

NanooCov
Good for you. Im not that brave! I will miss Glinner on twitter.

donquixotedelamancha · 08/05/2019 21:31

There have been hundreds of women who have spoken up and talked about the impacts on women's rights, why didn't he use their words?

He very, very often does. That thread is excellent, nothing wrong with highlighting it.

Are male transpeople opinions more valid

I think it's fairly obvious he doesn't think that.

or have a bigger impact?

Sometimes yes, because they show up the lie that the only people concerned over self ID are transphobes. As Kristina rightly points out in the thread- she gets away with saying things that women are shouted down for.

The people to people to blame for women being shouted down are the ones doing the shouting (squints eyes at LOJ, Penny Mordaunt, stonewall et al).

NanooCov · 08/05/2019 21:25

Love this. Just linked to it on my Facebook. I know some of my friends will really appreciate it too. But I am almost certain to lose some others. So be it.

RaininSummer · 08/05/2019 21:21

What a powerful piece of writing.

BoreOfWhabylon · 08/05/2019 21:05

@Glinner

Thank you, you lovely man. You look after you now. You could always drop in here from time to time though Smile

Spinnaret · 08/05/2019 21:03

Thank you Glinner. From a serial name changer.
Such a powerful article which I will be sharing with my super-woke Guardian reading DH. I need him to start hearing me.

PlinkPlink · 08/05/2019 20:40

I've stood by the side watching this debate for about a year now. Afraid to dip my toe in lest I get blasted into oblivion for my lack of knowledge.

This article has summed things up beautifully so thank you for sharing. I still dont know how to adequately put this into my own words. It's such a deep and emotive subject. That article is all I need.

I love trans people. I always have. Every trans person has the right to feel like and dress like a woman, change their name, change the way they look, change whatever they like. But I agree wholeheartedly that you cannot change sex. Gender is fluid. Sex is not. And it's scary that those radical trans activists are so intent on wrenching away any equality that women have fought for and continue to fight for to this day.
Not only that but they obliterate any opportunity to discuss. If you dare question them, you're just bombarded with hatred and threats.

I find it quite terrifying.

Thank you again for sharing.

Joisanofthedales · 08/05/2019 20:39

Thank you. Flowers

LarryGreysonsDoor · 08/05/2019 20:35

I just hope that him stepping back isn’t seen as a win by the TRA.

VickyEadie · 08/05/2019 20:33

Thanks, Glinner.

Quietlife333 · 08/05/2019 20:32

Thanks Glinner. Flowers

Manderleyagain · 08/05/2019 20:15

Thank you to him for speaking about this in public and making so many more people aware.

Cuntysnark · 08/05/2019 20:12

Superb. Thank you so much

breakfastpizza · 08/05/2019 20:10

Well said and thanks for all you've done so far, Glinner.

RosemaryHoight · 08/05/2019 20:08

Well said that man.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 08/05/2019 20:06

...progressive publications like the Guardian, terrified of losing the miracle of their newfound income from woke American readers.

That's a zinger.

Fantasisa · 08/05/2019 20:04

He is using a trans persons words to point out that reasonable trans people can see the conflict of interests and come down on the side of women too. It was a powerful message for me.

ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 08/05/2019 20:02

Kristina Harrison, who is herself trans, was asked which rights did women have that were in danger from the current incarnation of ‘trans rights’. She gave the following answer.

There have been hundreds of women who have spoken up and talked about the impacts on women's rights, why didn't he use their words?

Are male transpeople opinions more valid or have a bigger impact?

I appreciate everything glinner has said, and I don't blame him for stepping back. But it's telling that he's using a male person thoughts to talk about the dangers to women and girls rights.

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Nephilim1964 · 08/05/2019 19:56

A few of us shed a tear. He says he'll be back at some point he's just not sure when.

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bellinisurge · 08/05/2019 19:56

He's fab.

PushkarKali · 08/05/2019 19:49

Thank you, Glinner. Well said, as ever Flowers

Fantasisa · 08/05/2019 19:42

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

placemats · 08/05/2019 19:41

All power to your elbow Glinner.

I call in daily to your tweet feed.

You have summed it up wonderfully from a male gender critical point of view. I'm female, and I salute you.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 08/05/2019 19:39

That’s a really great piece. It’s understandable he is backing off as he’s a prominent figure. Mind you, us women don’t have that option....

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