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Times article - Men ‘should accept trans women in changing rooms’

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EweSurname · 07/05/2019 06:38

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/men-should-accept-trans-women-in-changing-rooms-mg2b8vnd3

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EmpressLesbianInChair · 07/05/2019 07:15

Gender critical transwomen like Kristina Harrison, Debbie Hayton, Seven Hex, Fionne Orlander etc could set a brilliant example here by doing Man Friday style group visits to men’s changing rooms. I suspect Miranda Yardley’s already doing it.

larrygrylls · 07/05/2019 07:09

I am a man and am responding to the Times article.

I am happy for anyone in my changing room; I would not even notice I doubt. I agree with the Times.

SlipperyLizard · 07/05/2019 06:59

Larry you clearly live in a wealthier area than I do - our council run gyms are almost universally from the 70s, with male and female changing room and a few cubicles with flimsy curtains but mostly open areas. I don’t want my daughters thinking that male bodied people in those open areas is ok.

One more modern facility has unisex changing rooms, originally the cubicles were open at the ceiling and floor (but with lockable door). They’ve since retrofitted some plastic on the top of the cubicles - the only reason I can think is to stop people (including pervy men) looking over at other people changing.

There are no private gyms within a reasonable distance (especially if you didn’t have a car), so not everyone has the luxury of choosing what sort of changing rooms they get to use if they want to swim or use the gym.

And finally, just because you’re happy with something doesn’t mean that other women have to give up our sex segregated spaces.

tempytemp · 07/05/2019 06:57

Oops I will ask for my comment to be deleted, I misread the title completely.

tempytemp · 07/05/2019 06:54

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

StealthPolarBear · 07/05/2019 06:49

Lovely idea but it'll never happen

larrygrylls · 07/05/2019 06:47

More than happy to accept any human being changing with me. In some European countries most changing rooms are unisex.

Aside from schools, I do not really understand the changing room battle (from either side).

No adult really has to use a changing room at all and most swimming pools have cubicles. As for gyms, I would consider these luxury items and you can join one that caters to what you want (provided you can afford it). You can also go changed and shower at home.

Personally I think gyms should be free to set their own policy re trans. That way you could get single sex only, single ‘gender’ only (I don’t really believe in that either) and unisex. People could choose their gym according to their belief.

And if women decamped en masse from single ‘gender’ and unisex, those gyms would cease to exist.

There is surely a market (if these boards are anything to go by) for a female sex only gym.

Igneococcus · 07/05/2019 06:47

I just put that into the Joan MacAlpine tread. Here is a share token:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/men-should-accept-trans-women-in-changing-rooms-mg2b8vnd3?shareToken=d4e8feb7233c5cb7c494077628367857

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