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No gym for me

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Orchidoptic · 06/05/2019 10:03

Phoned up Dudley gyms as had sudden urge to get fit without a long contract.
“Yes, yes, the changing areas are sex separated”
“can men who say they are women use the female changing areas”
“its discriminatory not to allow this” “even if the Equality Act says it is acceptable to separate in changing areas”
“its discriminatory not to allow them in”
“even though they probably still have penises”
“its discriminatory not to allow this”
“what about discriminating against women and girls?”
“...”

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Datun · 07/05/2019 02:45

I'm also saying that the suggestion that people who are trans are highly likely to be sex crazed maniacs rather than ordinary people wanting to live their lives in peace is massively offensive and untrue

Which doesn't explain why, according to the MOJ, nearly half of all transwomen prisoners are sex offenders.

FeministCat · 07/05/2019 02:32

My final comment on this thread:

Only someone completely unfamiliar with autogynephelia, the numerous trans subs on reddit, and well, for that matter, the lesbian subs on reddit that have been taken over by trans women, would say that.

NottonightJosepheen · 07/05/2019 02:29

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VeronicaDinner · 07/05/2019 02:22

No, I'm saying the chances of it happening are so vanishingly small that it's absolutely ludicrous to refuse to go to the gym because of it. I'm also saying that the suggestion that people who are trans are highly likely to be sex crazed maniacs rather than ordinary people wanting to live their lives in peace is massively offensive and untrue.

FeministCat · 07/05/2019 02:20

I agree CharleyParley I am stopping as I think they are just a goady MRA as you suggest.

FeministCat · 07/05/2019 02:18

Oh I see, now you are changing the goal posts from “it never happens because my friends are lovely” to “well, okay, it happens, but women should suck it up and allow men access to their daughters and themselves; what’s an assaulted ten year old here or there for the sake of a man’s feelings?”

96% of people who sexually abuse children are male.

91% of victims of rape and sexual assault are female.

90% of perpetrators of sexual violence against women are men.

When men are victims of sexual assault (an estimated one in 71 men, and one in six boys), 93% reported their abuser was a man.

The. Problem. Is. Men.

CharlieParley · 07/05/2019 02:12

FeministCat thank you for the links and for persisting. Would just like to say though that with someone whose very first comment on this thread as well as subsequent ones were typical of MRA attitudes and arguments and betrayed a profound lack of empathy for females, it may be a forlorn hope.

VeronicaDinner · 07/05/2019 02:11

I was once molested by a woman at a party. Does that mean you are likely to molest me in a changing room? Does that mean I can never go into a public toilet or changing area in case another woman is in there? No it doesn't.

FeministCat · 07/05/2019 01:59

No, the cases being the ones I and many others have referenced here already:

  1. Karen White
  2. The link to the Independent citing assault statistics
  3. The 10 year old girl assaulted in Scotland by a trans women
  4. JY who admits to wanting to “assist” girls with their tampons

Stop being deliberately ignorant.

VeronicaDinner · 07/05/2019 01:55

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Datun · 07/05/2019 01:10

If you believe someone with a special cheesecake recipe was washing period blood out of their knickers in the gym and was interrupted by a giant penis, I agree; you are beyond any attempts at reasoning.

This from the person who says men don't want to perve on women 🤣

FeministCat · 07/05/2019 00:49

If you believe sexual harassment and assault by trans women against girls and women never happens in change rooms, washrooms, prisons, baths, or other spaces that have gone to extend sex segregation to include “gender feels”, then we aren’t the ones beyond reasoning.

Interesting you refuse to respond to any of the actual cases discussed in this thread, including the statistics cited about where assaults happen. Oh wait, it’s not interesting, it’s just you think of you ignore it we will do the same.

VeronicaDinner · 07/05/2019 00:23

If you believe someone with a special cheesecake recipe was washing period blood out of their knickers in the gym and was interrupted by a giant penis, I agree; you are beyond any attempts at reasoning.

zenasfuck · 07/05/2019 00:20

Dudley gyms as in Dudley council?

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 07/05/2019 00:10

Eloquent as ever, CharlieParley.

I could write reams describing my experience of male sexual aggression and physical violence.

I'll take things that never happened for 500.

Presume that's an American reference, because I don't recognize it. You believe what you want to. But you haven't earned any credibility on this thread so far, VeronicaDinner, so you're unlikely to persuade other posters.

ByGrabtharsHammarWhatASaving · 07/05/2019 00:02

Tween = tweet

ByGrabtharsHammarWhatASaving · 07/05/2019 00:01

It's like all the people on Sharron's tween yesterday saying the cotton ceiling isn't real and the hundreds of tweets on it, plus the Riley video specifically endorsing it, and Planned Parenthood event actually training people how to do it, were all made up by angry feminist sock accounts. Absolutely extraordinary levels of cognitive dissonance.

CharlieParley · 06/05/2019 23:51

Interesting, isn't it, how these people who seek to abolish women's rights can only do argue for it by continually attempting to pretend that these things don't happen.

It's such a spectacularly unsuccessful strategy though.

Because 60% of girls have experienced either sexual harassment or assault in school by the time they are 16. 40% of women have experienced either sexual or physical violence by males, 70% experienced sexual harassment. Those lucky enough to escape will have been witness to the aftermath of this happening to female friends or family.

To almost all females then male entitlement, aggression and violence - whether physical or sexual - are an unavoidable part of our experience. We don't have to imagine something like this incident happening, we have seen it written in other perverts' own words on blogs, we have a whole three year court case in Norway about this very scenario, we have almost weekly reports of yet another male caught or tried or sentenced for these and worse crimes committed against females.

And the best these jokers can come up with is this is made up? Tragic.

VeronicaDinner · 06/05/2019 23:22

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AncientLights · 06/05/2019 21:54

Just a quick Google of 'slang words for penis' threw up:- anal impaler, baby maker, chopper, pork sword, purple-headed warrior.

And they wonder why we don't want unknown cocks anywhere near us?

StopThePlanet · 06/05/2019 21:12

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ErrolTheDragon · 06/05/2019 21:10

The primary definition of 'pathetic' is 'arousing pity, especially through vulnerability or sadness.'

Vulnerable women, women made sad by the erosion of their rights certainly do arouse my pity.

bettybeans · 06/05/2019 21:00

Feel free to expand on that coral13.
Which part of a thread full of women's experiences and fears is pathetic to you?

NottonightJosepheen · 06/05/2019 20:58

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