No gym for me

And all men are not sex crazed rapists!

If only there was a standard response to that.

#NotAllMen

NAMALT. I call Bingo.

So do porn and prostitution, or sex in advertising, not exist either in your fantasy world? I'm mildly curious about how you arrived at the idea that men are not interested in sex.

Oh sorry, does that not fit in with your mental image of some six foot five skulking rapist with their dick hanging out of their trousers in a poorly fitting wig, prowling around the ladies gym while breathing heavily and cracking their knuckles

Just give me one good reason why a man needs to show his penis to complete strangers in a public place.

Just one.

No, you can't tell. That's the trouble with living in your paranoid imagination. I have a friend who is trans, who I have seen in only her knickers, who I only know was trans because she told me.

And all men are not sex crazed rapists! The cheek of coming out with something like that and calling me misogynistic! You're off the chart sexist.

VeronicaDinner, a 10 year old girl has already been sexually assaulted by a transgender intact male in a women’s toilet in Scotland. Stop trying to pretend it never happens. Women prisoners have also been sexually assaulted by transgender rapist Karen White in the communal prison showers.
Women are absolutely entitled to have their privacy, safety and dignity respected in their gym changing rooms.

You’re really being vile and yes, misogynistic. It’s pretty much right out of MRA handbook to make remarks about a woman’s body like that.

AND WE CAN TELL! We’re not fucking stupid, every person I know can identify very easily a naked male body from a female body.

You haven't a clue.

No, I am female actually. But how absolutely typical of you to crack out your unnecessary prejudice.

And porn doesn't exist I suppose. Nor are female bodies ever used in advertising. Prostitution is not overwhelmingly servicing men.

Black is white, and the world is not round. The sun is not in the sky. Men are women and the sun is cold and Pluto is hot.

Sexist to think that men don't enjoy waving their genitals around???

Good god. I've heard it all now. We're not only transphobic, we are sexist because male violence simply does not happen.

You clearly are not female. The first time a man waved his genitals around at me, for no reason other than he enjoyed it, I was 8 years old.

Men are led by their genitals, and they are getting worse because everything in British culture is encouraging it.

It's not misogynistic at all. What would you like me to say - I'm sure everyone in there will be desperate to have a big old perve over you? No they wouldn't. People go to the gym to get fit, not as an excuse to wave their genitals around in the changing rooms or try to cop an eyeful of other people's bodies. And it's absolutely sexist on your part that you think anyone, male or female, is that deranged.

Just grow up and go to the gym. The chances are if you did see a trans person, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyway.

I've emailed my local gym twice asking about their policy. No reply. Would next step be ccing my mp?

Single sex changing rooms should be exactly that. They're supposed to discriminate, in sense 2 of the word 'recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another.'.

So you are prepared to go without a gym membership just in case you had to be in the same room as a trans person?

It's not them being trans that is the problem.

It's them being male.

If you are that precious, just go in a cubicle. Although I'm quite sure no one is in the least bit interested in your body anyway

If trans people are that precious, let them fight for their own spaces that are not already taken. And men are not interested in women's bodies are they not? So we can all walk around freely anywhere we like at any time without being harassed and blamed because we're wearing the clothes they dictate we should wear? Talk sense.

VeronicaDinner

"If you are that precious, just go in a cubicle."

Your lack of empathy is very revealing.
As a fitness instructor, most of the council run gyms I go to are open plan, with no cubicles and are designated "Female" and "Male", so to have an obviously male bodied person wandering around in the Female area, would I imagine at the very least cause concern, and possibly even traumatise someone.

So you are prepared to go without a gym membership just in case you had to be in the same room as a trans person?

A better idea: why don’t those who refuse to go to a gym unless they are given the opportunity to show their penises to girls start their own gyms?

Or, if they really like showing their penises to girls, why don’t they get a girlfriend who likes that kind of thing?

Vicky, I have emailed back for further clarification.
Will post the response I get.

*VeronicaDinner
You are breaking talk guidelines with your misogynistic personal attack. Bore off.

If they are separated by sex then why are they allowing men into the women's changing room?

finnmcool

You need to drill down - ask what their policy on transwomen accessing women's changing rooms.