Transactivists tweeting violent threats to Sharron Davies for opposing the cotton ceiling

anomoony just when I think they've hit rock bottom.....they dig another layer.

When we have our meetings, it's predominantly the young lesbians who report experiencing not only cotton ceiling type disrespect for their boundaries from straight males who identify as trans and their allies, but also how difficult it now is again to come out as a lesbian at school or college or university and that there is no support. No female-only lesbian groups or spaces, barely any clubs left. And saying you're exclusively same-sex attracted is literal violence.

The only reason that this doesn't seem to affect older lesbians as much is that those males also seem to target the young ones.

These are different meetings with different young women btw and they all report the same things actually happening to them.

So who to believe? The young women who all tell the same horrifying story even though they live in different towns and attend different institutions or the blokes pontificating about this being a mad conspiracy on Twitter whose offline spaces are not being colonised by straight males who identify as trans because they aren't interested in blokes?

totally just a conspiracy theory

I knew Jess Phillips had been subjected to some horrific misogynistic comments and threats but that is horrendous, even for a misogynistic threat!

When will people realise that women don't make threats to rape women with their penis?

That's what blows my mind. The current narrative would have us believe that a woman with a penis can make threats to rape women with that penis and be regarded as a woman.

As a woman that blows my mind. As an autistic woman the blatant lies in that statement make it hard for my brain to work through that.

But it is the reality we currently live in.

Where a (regarded legally as a) woman can have a penis, utter misogynistic and violent threats to harm women with said penis and calling that person a man is a criminal offence!! In fact the only criminal offence in that situation!!!

Jess Phillips was told on twitter that she needed a good fucking to sort her teeth out

Jesus. I didn’t know that. Twitter is really the worst.

Jess Phillips was told on twitter that she needed a good fucking to sort her teeth out

Twitter said not hate speech

You can say what you want to women on twitter.

Twitter hates women

Would Harrop shag a trans man, a cunty one, is the real question?

I'll 'get over' my homosexuality when the TRA movement 'get over' and accept their birth sex. Either the same standards apply to everyone - and don't privilege trans people while jumping up and down on the humanity and rights of everyone else on the planet - or they're abhorrent standards that shouldn't be applied to anyone.

Can't have it both ways.

As to the 'it's a lie and it never happens (despite all the evidence)' I'll just leave the narcissist's prayer here.

*The general argument seems to be if you're not trans or gay you have no say.

Fair enough.

Fuck off with telling women what we can and can't call ourselves then!

Oh and campaign for your own spaces to fit your extremely narrow group.

Because I am sick fucking fed up of being told I can't state biological fact, that I have to allow rape threats and aggression from activists and that I can't state that a woman is an adult human female.

Fuck off with cis too, woman is just fine.

Add whatever specific prefixes you like to your own definition, just keep that ludicrous bullshit well away from me.*

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Have those more tech-savvy archived key evidence such as rapey Reilly's video and RMcK's tweets? Because maybe at some point the TRA lobby will realise that harassing lesbians isn't a good look and will look to delete the evidence and change history.

Have emailed specialized to tell them what a great role model Dame Kelly is. I explained that as they should know from designing bikes for both men and women there are physical differences and that it is not hateful to say that.

They say its all bots and 'transphobic people pretending to be trans'..however, this very very often comes from TRAs themselves? Unless they claim being hacked, but then in that case, surely they would delete the messages the nasty people put up?!

Though sadly the behaviour of a few seems to hide the genuine problem of some with gender dysphoria, who see themselves as women and who want to date straight men. The dating pool is severely restricted. Leanne Mills wrote about this eloquently

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6493959/Transsexual-warn-reality-transexual.html

RoseofDawn covers the issue a recent interview, i think with "Lord Scrump". Interestingly she is open about being trans, and discovers many men would be more interested if she had a penis.

Whilst Talisa Garcia www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6716569/BBC-transgender-Chilean-born-actress-45-reveals-got-role-Baptiste.html suggests that dating straight men is not straightforward.

I assume it is a genuine problem. Indeed I wonder if it is one that Susie greens daughter has come across? There are not just long term medical issues to be considered around tran-ing, but social ones as well.

A question. Why are transpeople, who identify as women, who effectively pass as women, and who want to date men, relatively silent. No loud demands that that men should accept them. Yet transpeople, who identify as women but who want to date women (lesbians, as straight women would simply confirm their masculinity) are making a song and dance.

My answer would be that there are different types of dysphoria. One perhaps a form of mental illness. Real wrong body stuff. Whilst another might be considered AGP with a kink element to it. And that the first, the 5,000 people who were considered when the first GRA was drawn up are effectively being forgotten, along with transmen, in the current Trans campaign.

Sharron is cool. Go Kelly go. Both know a lot about sport. Both will have had plenty of lesbian teams mates. But apart from that are ordinary women leading ordinary lives. Fantastic spokeswomen for common sense.

Because unambiguous proof and truth is denied as fake news or the definitions of words are changed to suit the new agenda.

It's their sole purpose. To oppress, deny and silence. Women. Just women, nobody else and they've got carte blanche to do it.

So many on there still claiming it never happens..wy do they still try that tack? Makes no sense, when there is endless proof of it happening, and quie often too...

So she should ask those deniers outright if excluding transwomen from your lesbian dating pool is fine then.

If they're terrified of this getting to the public, they can go on record saying the opposite.

Oh. And they're going after Sharon's job too.

The fact they egg each other on and twitter does nothing is a terrifying revelation.

Twitter is the worst of all platforms and none of them are particularly fair to women- including this one.

In terms of evidence of lesbians shamed for not accepting penis, this google drive folder has many many examples

(Note this is not mine - you should be able to access it anonymously e.g. in incognito browser mode)

drive.google.com/folderview?id=13vfYxPdJ-HeeLfk_EDg9fR9lUx2NFWpd

The comments vilifying Sharon are just scary.

They really are. Any normal person would be horrified. The fact they egg each other on and twitter does nothing is a terrifying revelation.

Everyone must love dick. If you don't love and take dick, = transphobic bigoted terf.

The comments vilifying Sharon are just scary.

The general argument seems to be if you're not trans or gay you have no say.

Fair enough.

Fuck off with telling women what we can and can't call ourselves then!

Oh and campaign for your own spaces to fit your extremely narrow group.

Because I am sick fucking fed up of being told I can't state biological fact, that I have to allow rape threats and aggression from activists and that I can't state that a woman is an adult human female.

Fuck off with cis too, woman is just fine.

Add whatever specific prefixes you like to your own definition, just keep that ludicrous bullshit well away from me.

Even stonewall is homophobic now.

Same sex attraction is transphobic

My heart breaks for all the young lesbians having to deal with this shit. Men forcing them to do dick. Rape culture!