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Eddy Izzard says women should be forced to share bathrooms with men

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Hithere12 · 05/05/2019 11:58

m.youtube.com/watch?v=eFs7RfJZEIM

I can’t believe what I’ve just watched. Eddie Izzard is on Joe Rogan saying ALL bathrooms should be gender neutral and completely dismissed the concerns women have that Joe brought up. He dismissed it as “people always complain when there’s change”

The whole thing is so selfish and entitled.

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JessicaWakefieldSV · 06/05/2019 18:15

friend just replied "I'm all for gender neutral toilets".

Did you ask if they were all for young girls having to share toilets with men? I mean I’m not that surprised by the attitude towards women anymore, but do none of these people ever stop and think about either young children or older girls dealing with their first periods etc?

Datun · 06/05/2019 18:07

Eddie Izzard's shit-and-chat spaces

I don't know what to do first, hold my nose or cross my legs.

NottonightJosepheen · 06/05/2019 18:06

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Datun · 06/05/2019 18:05

Yes, by all means let's change every public restroom in the country to accommodate less than 1% of the population 🙄 . Doesn’t even make an ounce of sense.

Exactly.

I'll tell you it makes sense to.

Every man with a menstruation fetish, every paedophile, every rapist, every sexual assaulter, every bully, every misogynist, every predator, every autogynephile, every transvestite (Izzard).

Almost all of whom will be men.

Who it doesn't make sense to?

Any woman.

ThePurportedDoctoress · 06/05/2019 17:52

There's nothing to stop the gender-neutral toilet enthusiasts from campaigning for additional unisex provision and/or the removal of urinals and conversion of men's toilets into Eddie Izzard's shit-and-chat spaces. Just leave women's loos alone.

Cheekyfeckery · 06/05/2019 17:44

It baffles me, I mean.

It doesn’t baffle men, these men don’t think beyond their own dicks.

Cheekyfeckery · 06/05/2019 17:43

How is it that so many men, who want to be women, have such contempt for women?

It baffles men

Michelleoftheresistance · 06/05/2019 17:41

friend just replied "I'm all for gender neutral toilets".

As is already happening, as gender neutral loos involve men using the toilets with the doors open, bare backsides hanging out and piss everywhere all over the floor and seats, gender neutral loos will by default become men's toilets because women won't use them.

It won't solve the problem for anyone. Particularly not the TRAs, because the whole point of wanting to be in women's loos is that women have to be in there womaning.

Whisky2014 · 06/05/2019 17:34

A friend on fb posted how he was looking forward to this interview. I posted my concerns after watching this and friend just replied "I'm all for gender neutral toilets".

HeadlessGummyBears · 06/05/2019 17:31

Yes, by all means let's change every public restroom in the country to accommodate less than 1% of the population 🙄 . Doesn’t even make an ounce of sense. Why not just have a few separate loos or changing rooms for those who are trans and a label them as unisex? Or is that literal violence? 🤔 Doesn’t make sense to completely change everything, surely it’s common sense to just have some loos/changing rooms that are unisex that way people who don’t want to share don’t have to.

VickyEadie · 06/05/2019 17:23

I have no idea if Izzard is one of them, but he is clear that he's wholly up for women being used by men in any way men see fit, and does not believe women as a species are allowed to say no to men. So he's actively supporting that. The same way he's supporting homophobia, disablism, racism and discriminating against women on grounds of religion and belief, by coercing the above women to either submit to being used by men or lose access to provision or services.

This.

I used to be a massive Izzard Fan and saw him live a number of times. I knew a lot of his most famous material almost by heart.

But having been made aware of his misogynist, uncaring position on this, I had a long think. And realised that nowhere in his stage shows did he ever talk about women. Just never. Food for thought.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 06/05/2019 17:17

I reckon it's time to call out creeps like this every single time. Denying women and children the right to privacy and sex segregated spaces is predatory behaviour.

Those who deny others their rights to privacy, dignity and safety need to own it.They are using the tactics of predators.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 06/05/2019 17:04

Just like there are men who discuss on social media the best way to approach young (very young) women in public toilets and ask them about their tampons and offer to assist them? Then photograph themselves in a ladies loo with girls in the background.

Not creepy at all. Just a person needing to take a pee.

BettyDuMonde · 06/05/2019 16:55

Consent isn’t democratic.

A single no is a total veto.

Michelleoftheresistance · 06/05/2019 16:41

Neuro there are men who would absolutely love to help women wash out bloody mooncups, just as there are men who love to wait for women to leave stalls and then rummage for bloody (and hopefully still warm) tampons and pads to insert in their various orifices to enjoy their fetish.

I have no idea if Izzard is one of them, but he is clear that he's wholly up for women being used by men in any way men see fit, and does not believe women as a species are allowed to say no to men. So he's actively supporting that. The same way he's supporting homophobia, disablism, racism and discriminating against women on grounds of religion and belief, by coercing the above women to either submit to being used by men or lose access to provision or services.

What is it he says about that very very fine line between looking cool and looking like a dick?

Floisme · 06/05/2019 15:41

In the clip in the OP, Joe Rogan says, towards the end, "huh, there are no real answers.
I think I'm more disappointed in Joe Rogan than Eddie Izzard. I'd long ceased expecting anything more than Izzard but I'd thought Rogan was smart enough to see through this nonsense - although I guess the fact that he hardly ever seems to interview women should have been clue enough.

Anyway Joe, of course there are answers:
Men's toilet.
Women's toilet.
Mixed sex toilet.
It would cost money but maybe Stonewall could use some of their funds to launch a grant.

NeurotrashWarrior · 06/05/2019 15:38

Eddie also clearly hasn't considered moon cups.

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 06/05/2019 15:27

I agree, but if it's all just one big mixed sex toilet block the decent men will be forced there too (and I suspect there'd be a fast return to single sex)

NottonightJosepheen · 06/05/2019 15:24

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Ineedacupofteadesperately · 06/05/2019 15:19

The dads really didn't like the idea of men in the Ladies with their young daughters

Yep. The reason these Dads don't go in the loos with their daughters is because of their consideration for other women and girls. Now of course they legitimately could (I'm sure they may all find an inner Pips Bunce when it comes to it, once aware) and frankly bring on the Dads, given a choice between them and an AGP who thinks woman = dress and heels I'd rather have the Dads. Id prefer single sex but I'd rather everything be actually honestly and above board mixed sex and in with decent men who give a damn about young girls than this mixed sex by stealth, only letting in those who at a minimum don't care about what girls want.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 06/05/2019 14:56

ugh. Eddie Izzard: the Jim Davidson years

why do so many male comedians chose to come out as hateful misogynists in late middle age?

GCAcademic · 06/05/2019 13:51

Peaches, I left a moderate comment on another forum suggesting that mixed-sex toilets were unkind to girls. I had several almost instant responses hoping that my children would come out as trans and then commit suicide because of my bigotry.

Oh yes, these are the people who are on the right side of history, for sure.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 06/05/2019 13:49

It's not the internet that we need to be targeting, it is the general public, out there on the streets and in our towns and cities.

You're right, Justhadathought. While out leafleting over several weeks about the GRA last autumn only two out of dozens of people who spoke to us disagreed with us.

Most people reacted in this way:

  1. They had no idea that Self ID was even being considered before speaking to us.
  1. They were totally astonished that something so important and far reaching was being considered without anything in the media or put out by government.
  1. When faced with the idea of people being able to change sex legally overnight people very soon recognized the potential for abuse. Men spotted this immediately, interestingly. I assume some lucky women have not been exposed to predatory male behaviour, but men know how nasty other men can be.
  1. Apart from the two I mentioned, everyone else said single sex facilities should remain. The dads really didn't like the idea of men in the Ladies with their young daughters.

When I've talked to people in real life the hard bit is convincing them that some of this batshit stuff is really happening.

Once they're convinced the conversation follows the same path as described above. It's only in rarefied circles that people believe TWAW. Outside such circles people may feel sorry for them but they think they're mentally ill men, not women.

DodoPatrol · 06/05/2019 13:40

Peaches, I left a moderate comment on another forum suggesting that mixed-sex toilets were unkind to girls. I had several almost instant responses hoping that my children would come out as trans and then commit suicide because of my bigotry.

I don’t know these savage nitwits nor want to. They don’t know me. All the same, I was somewhat shaken.

There are some vile people out there. Good luck with continuing to raise the discussion.

Mumfun · 06/05/2019 13:35

He used to be a hero of mine. Loved that he dressed as he pleased and was comfortable with it..

Has become a woman hating complete knob.

And his comedy has gone down hill at same time. Not the person he was -in more ways than one

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