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Eddy Izzard says women should be forced to share bathrooms with men

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Hithere12 · 05/05/2019 11:58

m.youtube.com/watch?v=eFs7RfJZEIM

I can’t believe what I’ve just watched. Eddie Izzard is on Joe Rogan saying ALL bathrooms should be gender neutral and completely dismissed the concerns women have that Joe brought up. He dismissed it as “people always complain when there’s change”

The whole thing is so selfish and entitled.

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lookatallthepeaches · 05/05/2019 23:40

According to the links you've supplied, you're at as much risk from cameras in single sex facilities as you are in unisex.

All this demonstrates is that men can, and will, and do these shitty things.

Single sex toilets are no guarantee of safety, boys are at risk too, and it's not just public toilets we need to be wary of.

lookatallthepeaches · 05/05/2019 23:37

Well your googling skills are a bit rubbish - all
UK;

www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/latest-news/warning-over-coat-hook-spy-cameras-installed-on-public-toilet-doors-1-9104021

This link doesn't describe any incidents,it just says these hooks are available but hasn't said anything about what kind of toilets they were found in or who was convicted.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-birmingham-42994420

A public toilet (doesn't specificy single or unisex) and his parents house and holiday home.

www.stamfordmercury.co.uk/news/voyeur-caretaker-filmed-students-in-toilets-9064231/

These cameras were fitted in single sex female toilets

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.lurganmail.co.uk/news/police-probe-after-camera-found-in-hospital-toilets-1-8550782/amp

This article doesn't specify whether it was a female or male toilet or who was targeted.

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.ladbible.com/more/uk-viral-security-guard-finds-hidden-camera-in-disabled-toilets-20170622.amp.html

So this one is legit - a disabled toilet, presumably unisex as most of them are.

www.kentonline.co.uk/maidstone/news/secret-camera-found-in-shopping-127672/

This link is the same article as the previous

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/stoke-on-trent-news/paedophile-businessman-installed-hidden-camera-2416620.amp

Well this one was in the gents as boys were the target

www.lipstickalley.com/threads/uk-from-changing-rooms-to-public-toilets-the-dark-trend-of-hidden-spy-cameras-filming-women.2046019/

Tanning salon and rental flat

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/crime/man-who-put-hidden-cameras-in-hotel-toilet-spared-jail-1-4441432/amp

Hotel toilet

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/uk/690770/peeping-tom-pervert-caught-accidentally-filmed-himself-ladies-toilet/amp

And another one in a single sex female only toilet

Datun · 05/05/2019 23:34

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Genderfreelass · 05/05/2019 23:27

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Voice0fReason · 05/05/2019 23:14

Eddie, you have a penis, your opinion in this matter is irrelevant.
Fuck off.

VickyEadie · 05/05/2019 23:13

MoleSmokes

Too right!

AlwaysComingHome · 05/05/2019 23:12

The onus should be on Izzard, JY, and the rest, to explain why their need to share a bathroom with women and young girls outweighs women and young girl’s right to privacy.

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VickyEadie · 05/05/2019 22:43

I have a female partner. We've been together for 20 years now. I won't pee in front of her because I can't - just like others have mentioned. If I knew a man was possibly going be anywhere near, I wouldn't go in, let alone pee.

RedDogsBeg · 05/05/2019 22:41

I agree about the idiot politicians and companies Hithere12 and that we have to fight strongly against this, but I am so furious that I have to explain and justify when a simple NO should suffice.

TheClitterati · 05/05/2019 22:39

He's lost his fucking mind!

Very disappointing. Actually it hurts very much when the so called "good guys" turn out to be first class misogynists.

RedDogsBeg · 05/05/2019 22:38

No, peaches will just come back with some waffle about not talking about unisex toilets, failing to grasp the logic that female toilets that allow male bodied people in them cease to be single sex spaces and become unisex, yes peaches that's UNISEX which is exactly what gender neutral means.

Hithere12 · 05/05/2019 22:37

We just don’t want to and we make up 51% of the population. We don’t need to explain ourselves or ask permission. We just need to constantly say no

But we have idiot politicians and companies caving into the TRA’s demands all the time. We live in a patriarchal society and most of the people in charge of making these decisions are men. It’s definitely something we need to fight strongly against.

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welshgendercrit · 05/05/2019 22:27

I'm guessing you weren't able to back up your initial assertion with a link. I told you I looked but I couldn't find it. If you can't find it either it leads me to believe it doesn't actually exist.

From the above I don't really think @lookstallthepeaches actually wanted any links, because they mean our concerns about unisex toilets can't just be dismissed as irrational.

AutumnCrow · 05/05/2019 22:27

Why does Mr Izzard think that he is entitled to give away the rights of women?

Wouldn't that make him some sort of entitled male prick?

FloralBunting · 05/05/2019 22:21

Lolololol @ "What links? Don't believe you hysterical harpies!"

FWR: SHIT LOADS OF LINKS.

Grin
Enterthewolves · 05/05/2019 22:18

I think peaches is either thick as mince or was being a wind up merchant - if I wasn’t feeling so mardy I’d have risen above but well, I failed 🙂

JessicaWakefieldSV · 05/05/2019 22:18

We just don’t want to and we make up 51% of the population. We don’t need to explain ourselves or ask permission. We just need to constantly say no.

Agreed. I’m not supplying ‘evidence’ or explaining to some disgusting man who wants to poo while he chats to me. NO. Fucking No. fucking god damn no.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 05/05/2019 22:17

If you can't find it either it leads me to believe it doesn't actually exist

No, I just don’t spend time doing unpaid work for randoms who demand me to. This is an issue much discussed on these boards with threads you can search for here. But I see others have managed what you were either too lazy or lacking in basic google skills to do.

birdsdestiny · 05/05/2019 22:16

And my local authority isn't even in that comprehensive list.

AutumnCrow · 05/05/2019 22:15

These aren't Izzard's rights to give away

RedDogsBeg · 05/05/2019 22:08

But why do we even have to lower ourselves by explaining in intimate detail why we don’t want to share toilets with men?

We just don’t want to and we make up 51% of the population. We don’t need to explain ourselves or ask permission. We just need to constantly say no.

I totally agree with you KarenTheCashRegister I am sick and fucking tired of being expected to explain and justify why I don't want to share toilets, changing rooms and any other single sex services or provision for women, aka females, with men, aka males. A straightforward NO should be accepted and acceptable.

Ask men the question, a resounding NO is given and that's the end of the discussion no pushing it further it's just accepted. No requests to be nice, no accusations of phobia, no threats of violence, no whiny wheedling chorus of but, but, but.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 05/05/2019 22:05

I just googled and found an article

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/women-spy-cameras-hidden-public-places-peeping-toms-a8689626.html

You are either lazy or crap at google

You pick

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