Green Sheffield Councillor puts the Party in a spin with gender critical statement

I liked it better as the Ecology Party. It supposed a whole ethos, rather than just an environmental pressure group.

Why does the Green party have a 'pro trans ethos', or indeed be a left wing party? I wish they would be a solely environmental party and not also get involved in politics unrelated to the environment. It drives away potential voters who are right wing, or gender critical, and others.

They are not about to form a government so they don't need to have a position on everything. At a time when we have only 10 years to avert severe climate change, it's nuts that the Green Party is getting in a spat about trans issues, and trying to distance themselves from a successful Green candidate.

Glad he has won. There has been an outcry in Sheffield about the council chopping down lots of healthy trees to save cash maintaining them, that has probably helped him.

Although I think it suggests that your average voter isn't as clear on trans issues as the trans lobby would have you believe. Most people haven't thought about it very much, but probably wouldn't disagree with anything he says.

There's a group of GC LibDem women.
Think they can be found on Twitter
Any idea where I can find them?

Evening all

Just stopping by to gently revive this recent thread.

If you have some time, I know for sure that Cllr Garbutt would be most heartened to hear from more GC voices. As we know, standing up to these TRA tyrants is not pleasant and he is getting the expected flak for it.

Your support would mean the world to him and his family.

How many pissed of bandwagoners wouldn’t vote for him (assuming they would have bothered in the first place) Vs how many women would positively vote for him.

I still don’t trust the Greens.

Can anyone tell me whether the Green party is still using the tern 'non-men' in any of its current literature or documentation?

With the Euro elections coming up I'm needing to know whether this is still the case, as I'm considering voting Green. If it is still the case, I need to be on firm ground when explaining to party activists why I'll not ever be voting Green until this is changed.

Useful links, thanks Euro. I think Joanna Cherry should prob be added to the SNP page. And I am now happier about voting SNP in May.

Are you sure R0 as I can't find them?

(Tactically for Brexit)

Thanks R0 I didn't know this.

This website finds more GC voices in all the other parties than the Lib Dem's which is very difficult as if I want to vote tactically for meps it's Lib Dem.

www.peaktrans.org/gender-criticism-across-the-political-spectrum/

The greens in my area standing for MEP I categorically know are very GC (we are in a secret GC group.)

I'd like to think the same was happening in labour and Lib Dem's. Who knows

There's a group of GC LibDem women.
Think they can be found on Twitter

I agree womaninboots.

Their scientific credibility is in tatters.

Sadly most of the GC Greens I know have either left (like me) or are silenced by The Woke.

I know the GP is in a mess but it is really helpful if you know there's a GC GP candidate to vote for them as it gives strength within the party to fight this - Peter was openly GC but still won, which helps to dispel the myth that it's a vote loser. It's not going to change overnight, but supporting people who are working on it can only help even though the actions of the main party have been crap over this.

I live here. I voted for him. To be honest I’d no idea he was gc , nice bonus though :) It’s always been close between green and labour here but as someone further up said I am furious about the trees which is the main reason i votes green.

I hadn't seen this before - I googled to see if there was an 'out' group.

gendercriticalgreens.wordpress.com/

I do know they are being witch hunted and silenced.

I'd like to think the same was happening in labour and Lib Dem's. Who knows. As yet I'm personally still politically homeless. If anyone, I usually vote Lib Dem for education policies, though I would vote labour if they reinstated their last primary curriculum that the Tories shelved.

I'd love to be able to vote Green again. I'm glad there are some GC people in the Green Party. They need to have a rethink about whether they are going to choose to be consistently scientific across the board though. That includes trans issues.

I couldn't vote green. I might want to but I absolutely can't because of this.

I don't know this guy but suspect he's one of the GC greens.

GC greens complained and reported many things relating to the Challenor case and have been and are still being silenced. Some have left, some are working behind scenes to change things.

The problem is that this is a party that young voters who care about the planet will vote for. Extinction rebellion will and is definitely have/ing an impact. They will gain more seats. GC greens within the party must try to fight to turn the party around regarding its appalling approach to women and safeguarding.

The Deep Green Resistance appear to know their biology. Not a political party but certainly something more green people will find.

One thing that's been bothering me is that since increasing evidence of compounds such as cocaine are being found in aquatic animals, surely the hormones trans people take make their way to the environment too. What would Blockers do? How do greens level up with that? Unfortunately I know it's also an issue with oral contraception, however this should be a right for women to stop unwanted pregnancies, (and other menstrual conditions) some of which could be due to abuse by men.

deepgreenresistance.org/en/what-we-do/deep-green-resistance-feminist-solidarity-guidelines

Yes, sorry, that's what I meant. If they acknowledged the Challenor issue and took steps to fix safeguarding, and got real with the science of sex. Daft that such an important issue party (environment) gets hijacked and derailed by a tiny lobby group.

Such a headfuck, isnt it? Person who knows how to distinguish between the two sexes and says you can't change sex is causing untold damage.

Paedophile rapist, and enabling family members are not really even mildly troubling.

Yeah, I'll vote green when they rejoin the land of the people with decent moral standards, ta.

Absolutely. It is the likes of the Challenors who have caused "untold damage."

This is why i wouldnt vote green. www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/aimee-challenor-father-rape-election-agent-green-party-investigation-a8725701.html%3famp

I'd like to be able to vote Green.

I really really want to support the Greens and I would love to see them as the party supporting science, environmental sustainability and diversity. I just hope this undercover GC crowd make themselves known soon. I absolutely cannot believe in a party that wants to save the planet but condemns science and denies material reality.

Is that Sheffield? I think there is a local issue where people are furious with the council about tree felling. That might explain a surge of support for Greens.

Great to hear of a GC group within the party though and great this chap felt able to speak up. Really hope leadership will start to listen properly to the issues. I'd love to be able to vote for them next general election, I like their approach on many issues but their blind support of the TRA line is currently a sticking point.

Well done that man.
Hopefully more will follow suit.