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Maya Forstater

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DianeBrewster · 05/05/2019 09:40

MN have deleted the thread started by Maya - who lost her job for speaking up for women- because it talks about her crowdfunding for legal costs

Here is today's times article on the case https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tax-expert-fired-for-saying-trans-women-aren-t-women-tpqgnm9vj?shareToken=3f12f5cae61c02fd41040eb816fd37b4&wgu=2705255426441557045162977940f0d76fa1&wgexpiry=1564821162&utmmsource=planit&utmmedium=affiliate&utmm_content=22278

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Judashascomeintosomemoney · 08/05/2019 11:53

Fucking hell. I really can’t be more eloquent than that I’m afraid. A whole panel talking bollocks, completely unchallenged.

LangCleg · 08/05/2019 11:52

reducing gender to sex

ARGH THERE AREN'T ENOUGH FUCKING SWEAR WORDS.

You can fuck off as well, Grace. How can you get it so backwards?

littlbrowndog · 08/05/2019 11:52

Well. All the people telling us

Grrrrrrrr.

littlbrowndog · 08/05/2019 11:52

Here’s a guy telling us

littlbrowndog · 08/05/2019 11:51

Ohhhhh here we go

littlbrowndog · 08/05/2019 11:50

TWAW. all the what

LangCleg · 08/05/2019 11:47

Fuck off, Jo, with provoke. Fuck the fuck off.

AncientLights · 08/05/2019 11:45

Starting now

LangCleg · 08/05/2019 11:44

GO MAYA!

R0wantrees · 08/05/2019 11:44

Now on

AncientLights · 08/05/2019 11:43

Ah good. Thought I'd missed it too. Excited. Go Maya!

littlbrowndog · 08/05/2019 11:40

No. Still waiting

FlightPack · 08/05/2019 11:36

I haven't missed it have I? Only just turned on.

R0wantrees · 08/05/2019 11:23

Sam Gyimah also on Politics Live first public action last year when he became Universities Minister:

May 2018
"Sam Gyimah, the universities minister, will announce tough guidance on the issue at a meeting today, calling attempts to silence debate “chilling”.

He will accuse some student societies of “institutional hostility” to certain unfashionable but perfectly lawful views. A “murky” legal landscape, with guidance from various regulators, lets zealots censor those with whom they disagree, Mr Gyimah will say.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sam-gyimah-crackdown-on-students-silencing-free-speech-x28jx85fc

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3239267-Free-Speech-No-Platforming-at-Universities

Justhadathought · 08/05/2019 11:20

There was an article yesterday I think in the Guardian that maybe you could use as a slight intro to GC thought. I will try and find the link someone posted it on MN

Was that the one by Ellie May O'Hagen about how men behave during mixed sex swimming sessions?

She's a mate of OJ isn't she? I do wonder, though, whether she actually made the logical leap into thinking about mixed sex changing rooms etc. Probably not. She's young still - but she'll get there in the end.

Justhadathought · 08/05/2019 11:16

And yet The Guardian hasn't chosen to report on this

Yes, and that is because what this is about is not about truth, injustice, free speech or democracy - but about ideology.

littlbrowndog · 08/05/2019 11:09

Watching when it come on maya. 💪👊👊

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 08/05/2019 10:42

Coffee break set for 11.15.

You get him told, Maya.

RoyalCorgi · 08/05/2019 10:14

Get those sound bites on early.

I'd second that. Sonia Poulton demonstrated how to do it with "Google cotton ceiling"! Not easy to do, I imagine - a lot of women struggle because they are polite and refuse to talk over others, but Sonia has clearly mastered it.

S1naidSucks · 08/05/2019 10:04

That’s brilliant Maya. I’m looking forward to it. It’s the BBC so be prepared to be talked over and the strong suggestion that you’re a bigot that was asking for it. They’re not going to be GC friendly. Get those sound bites on early. Good luck.

TimeLady · 08/05/2019 10:02

Maybe buy your friend a short subscription to The Times for her birthday, Lamaha? Wink

LangCleg · 08/05/2019 09:55

Bold fail. Soz!

LangCleg · 08/05/2019 09:54

On my way to @BBCPolitics #politicslive to talk about my case. 11:15 on BBC2 with @MollyMEP* @SamGyimah @graceblakeley and @tomhfh #equalityact #womensrights #FreedomOfSpeech*

Yay! I remember Jen James's crowdfunder being discussed on Marr way back when. He couldn't keep the incredulity out of his voice - "they've raised TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND POUNDS".

That was £25k in three weeks. You've raised £60k in three days, Maya. That's how much awareness has increased.

FiredMaya · 08/05/2019 09:48

On my way to @BBCPolitics #politicslive to talk about my case. 11:15 on BBC2 with @MollyMEP @SamGyimah @graceblakeley and @tomhfh #equalityact #womensrights #FreedomOfSpeech

LangCleg · 08/05/2019 09:05

Fabulous news that sufficient support for That Which Shall Not Be Named has been achieved!

I have a second contribution to make from the quid-a-naysayer game I've been playing on here. Will do that later in the week.

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