Maya Forstater

Blimey!! I what did I miss!!!!

TBH I have lost patience with trying to listen to woke stuff.

and the way coburn read out Maya's measure and entirely factual tweet like she was holding it as arm's length in metaphorical tongs, in case she got some transphobia on her.

gah! I may start throwing insults around again in a minute

seriously though, probably (another) complaint to the BBC is in order. if they were going to let the panel spout their entirely bollocks beliefs about trans women, they should have had some balance.

Yeah but only the right sort of public 😉

Coburn came across as hostile and biased from the word go. I wonder why. On BBC, the public broadcaster. On an issue that was PUT OUT TO PUBLIC CONSULTATION.

Where was the discussion about freedom of speech? This case is not about trans, or Caster, or 'getting hormones'. It's about the freedom to discuss those matters without fear of losing your job.

Exactly.

It ruins your faith, it really does.

Discussion of the transgender issue has become, to me, a temperature check of whether someone is worth listening to in other areas.

If they are setting themselves up as someone whose opinion has credibility, then they should make sure they know what they're talking about.

None of them are informed. And that man thought his opinion should have credibility, despite actually admitting that he was totally uninformed.

I mean, where do you get off with that?!!!

Even though I don't know what I'm talking about, and I'll admit I don't know what I'm talking about, you should still listen to me because...????

Well, we all know the answer.

🤣

I still can't get over Chemical Castration Man. I honestly thought I must have been hallucinating. He really said that.

It's, like, one step further than a woman is a man without a penis. It's a woman is a man whose penis has gone floppy cos pills.

And we're the transphobic ones?! That bloke managed to be both sexist and transphobic in the same fucking comment.

Uninformed sheep taking the opportunity to bleat TWAW.

Where was the discussion about freedom of speech? This case is not about trans, or Caster, or 'getting hormones'. It's about the freedom to discuss those matters without fear of losing your job.

That's what makes this case so important.

Off to pledge some more support for Maya.

I caught the typo and I love Bernard!

God, that was disappointing. I was hoping for a discussion. But no. An entire panel without a scintilla of critical thinking. And as for "provocative"... My jaw's aching I clenched it so hard.

I was astonished at Jo's use of the word 'provoke'. Blatant BBC bias - again. Could they have been any more woke?

And

"Should you have been discussing this on Twitter?"

FFS

Glad I was at work so couldn't watch, sounds horrendous. But when I get home the old Visa card will be coming out again...

What is the definition of woman they are using?

"Oh I would love to hear each of those lazy, flaccid brained bandwagon jumpers on that panel answer that question"

It's The Number One Question.

Because the answer to it is I'm sexist.

The Green Party rep was precisely why I didn't vote for them here either, because I know the Green Party members here, and they would all chant the cult mantra in exactly the same brain dead manner.

What is the definition of woman they are using?

Oh I would love to hear each of those lazy, flaccid brained bandwagon jumpers on that panel answer that question

Anyway, I think you’re mostly being polite about the Green Party member (Bernard excepted obvs ) I can completely believe she believes it.

The green woman saying transwomen are women and transmen are men.

Why can't we have a discussion about what that means????

What is the definition of woman they are using?

Let's bloody hear it, explain yourselves, account for why you think women are stereotypes on a stick?

Indeed, I voted for them in the recent local election. I won’t make that mistake again.

Come on BernardBlacksWineIcelolly your post brought some well-needed levity. Let's keep it.

Also feel so betrayed by the Greens, when environmental issues are vitally important, they make themselves unelectable with the whole Challenor issue and stuff like this.

Bernard
😂 hadn’t scrolled down far enough and had a WTF? moment there.

Come on MN, please come and delete it!

How are we at a point where people in power are so incredibly thick ?

You've got a good face for tv, Maya. You are able to keep a neutral expression even when people are being absolute morons around you. Important when you are filling a frame.

It is a skill I lack. My admiration for you has gone up even more.

I needed a belly laugh after throwing all the sofa cushions across the room.