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Maya Forstater

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DianeBrewster · 05/05/2019 09:40

MN have deleted the thread started by Maya - who lost her job for speaking up for women- because it talks about her crowdfunding for legal costs

Here is today's times article on the case https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tax-expert-fired-for-saying-trans-women-aren-t-women-tpqgnm9vj?shareToken=3f12f5cae61c02fd41040eb816fd37b4&wgu=2705255426441557045162977940f0d76fa1&wgexpiry=1564821162&utmmsource=planit&utmmedium=affiliate&utmm_content=22278

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Floisme · 05/05/2019 09:47

Dammit I'd seen that thread and was just coming back to post on it.
Thank you Maya and best of luck with the case.

Sacked by a think tank for wrong think.... I'm trying to think of a suitable quip but there isn't one. Flowers

Datun · 05/05/2019 09:47

Well done Maya. I had a whole bloody comment typed out and wondered why it wasn't posting.

It's an incredible case.

Pivotal to the entire issue.

Utterly crucial that anyone and everyone reads the links.

ArfArfBarf · 05/05/2019 09:47

I’d love to know the proportion of comments written to those published on that times article!

SophoclesTheFox · 05/05/2019 09:47

Yes, I thought that would probably happen.

Better to talk about the case then.

I was interested on the other thread about the protection of belief versus the protection of being able to state facts, could whoever posted some of that analysis maybe have another go here? I’m not sure I had understood about what happens if your belief is actually arguably a fact...

Joisanofthedales · 05/05/2019 09:46

Maya. Stay strong. You have my admiration for your courage and you have my support for your fight against the loss of free speech imposed by the Trans lobby. Will donate today.
Flowers

TheBullshitGoesOn · 05/05/2019 09:46

The thread vanished before my eyes.

I wish Maya all the best in her tight for justice.

OrchidInTheSun · 05/05/2019 09:46

For those who can't be bothered to read the article, Maya (who is one of the original founders of Let Toys Be Toys which started on MN) has lost her job because she tweeted on her personal Twitter about the self-ID and the consultation about it. And because she believes that women are adult human females.

Popchyk · 05/05/2019 09:46

Good article. Gilligan again.

From the article:

"In an email, a CGD manager said: “You stated that a man’s internal feeling that he is a woman has no basis in material reality. A lot of people would find that offensive and exclusionary.”

But true.

So people cannot say true thing because others are invested in being upset at true things.

Idiots.

FlaviaAlbia · 05/05/2019 09:45

And here's her article on Medium for when the Times share token expires
medium.com/@MForstater/i-lost-my-job-for-speaking-up-about-womens-rights-2af2186ae84

JessicaWakefieldSV · 05/05/2019 09:44

Thank you. Wishing Maya lots of luck and I hope she wins her case.

dianebrewster · 05/05/2019 09:44

We don't NEED to post any links to, or info on, the crowdfunder on this thread so please don't, so as not to break the MN rules.

I would like to thank Maya for speaking out.

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TundraDweller · 05/05/2019 09:44

Maya is on Twitter, for those who want to read more about her case and her views

SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 05/05/2019 09:43

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