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Maya Forstater

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DianeBrewster · 05/05/2019 09:40

MN have deleted the thread started by Maya - who lost her job for speaking up for women- because it talks about her crowdfunding for legal costs

Here is today's times article on the case https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tax-expert-fired-for-saying-trans-women-aren-t-women-tpqgnm9vj?shareToken=3f12f5cae61c02fd41040eb816fd37b4&wgu=2705255426441557045162977940f0d76fa1&wgexpiry=1564821162&utmmsource=planit&utmmedium=affiliate&utmm_content=22278

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Floisme · 07/05/2019 07:41

I don't normally mention Madigan for all the reasons given here but I do think it's interesting that they talk about Jess Phillips as being shit with trans politics. That's after all Jess' ducking and diving and wriggling and Christ wasn't she even on That Committee with Maria Miller?

It doesn't matter how much of a trans ally you try to be, nothing you do is ever enough.

Which is why Maya's case is so important.

PencilsInSpace · 07/05/2019 01:01

Prawnofthepatriarchy - What would happen if Maya's employer caves and offers her her job back?

It's not usual for anyone to return to work for an employer after a tribunal, it's generally accepted that the working relationship has irretrievably broken down by this stage. If she was pushed to accept this she could claim constructive dismissal - this is where your employer makes it effectively impossible to continue in your job even if you haven't actually been sacked.

MissEyre - Am I right in thinking that Maya isn't an employee and thus has to claim discrimination rather than unfair dismissal? (a bit rusty on this stuff).

She is/was an employee on a fixed term contract. She has the same rights to claim unfair dismissal as any other employee and as she was there for over 2 years she can do so.

(not even a pretend lawyer)

Datun · 07/05/2019 00:36

Lily, a woman's officer, said it was good a woman was sacked and she should go fuck herself.

Spinning it as similar to Jess Phillips saying fuck off doesn't come anywhere near to addressing their aggression and misogyny.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 06/05/2019 23:35

Looks like Lily has had her (massive) knuckles rapped...

twitter.com/realLilyMadigan/status/1125525761673371649

Lily can tell Mya to fuck off because Jess Phillips tells a heap of people to fuck off.

Right.

Angryresister · 06/05/2019 23:32

RedBarrows Did the email but turns out she no longer works for the Labour Party. Will repost to relevante person.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 06/05/2019 23:31

I agree floral

Its like looking in a mirror and saying 'candyman' three times

FloralBunting · 06/05/2019 23:25

Yeah, but some people have inexplicable special sway in getting deletions - I think if we can be extra and specially cautious about not mentioning THE THING, we can probably manage not to accidently make the thread Swiss cheese because of that inexplicable sway in deletion requests.

OccasionalKite · 06/05/2019 23:24

Flowers to Maya Forstater.

I wish you the very best of luck.

So good to see this level of support for you, it's impressive, and so reassuring.

Thank you, Maya Forstater

Absolutepowercorrupts · 06/05/2019 23:09

It's relevant now because of Madigan's disgusting tweet. As the Labour Party support Madigan they are complicit in the erasure of Women. These threads of support sometimes take a turn that may not be helpful to the main issue. Most posters deal with it and don't tell others what to post and attempt to police others.
I'm just here looking to support Maya and to cheer her on for making the stand that she has.
Maya Flowers

FloralBunting · 06/05/2019 23:00

Yeah, but said pointless individual is microscopic on the scale of importance and a legend in their own imagination, and dislikes nothing so much as not inserting themselves into the centre of attention.

If we are going to discuss irrelevancies that are connected to Maya, let's at least enjoy sometime on that brilliant piece of product placement with Magic Grandad.

littlbrowndog · 06/05/2019 22:46

Yeah but that person told maya to fuck off. She raised it herself on twitter.

It’s relevant as shows what happens to a woman

FloralBunting · 06/05/2019 22:44

Maya, Maya, Maya!

Women, girls, females, them as 'ave vaginas.

Let's please stop giving oxygen to wind up merchants who are none of the above. Cheers.

Thingybob · 06/05/2019 22:15

Can I just say...this thread is meant to be about Maya and I am worried it’s getting derailed

It also makes for very uncomfortable reading so please can we stick to a talking about the very smart, brave, dignified and respectful person that is Maya.

NotTerfNorCis · 06/05/2019 22:05

It looks like Madigan has lost it. Someone from Labour needs to intervene. It reflects badly on the party.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 06/05/2019 21:54

Great to see so many women and men supporting Maya. Flowers

SarahTancredi · 06/05/2019 21:41

repeal

Oops Grin

RepealTheGRA · 06/05/2019 21:34

I feel like Maya’s point may have been admitted to here?

Maya Forstater
FiredMaya · 06/05/2019 21:34

And yes Misseyre its discrimination not unfair dismissal.

And yes as someone said upthread, for the employment tribunal usually each party bears their own costs.

SonEtLumiere · 06/05/2019 21:33

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FiredMaya · 06/05/2019 21:26

Awks Isn't it Grin

And i love the comments!

FlowersFlowersFlowers

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 06/05/2019 21:25

Can I just say...this thread is meant to be about Maya and I am worried it’s getting derailed and talking about Labour Students and will therefore lose its purpose of supporting Maya. And it’s a great thread and I don’t want it to turn off other readers. Clearly I am not the thread police but I just wonder whether some of these ramifications could be discussed on a different/new thread?

bethy15 · 06/05/2019 21:20

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Awks · 06/05/2019 21:18

50 is a wonderful number

dillydallyXX · 06/05/2019 21:17

well judging from the car crash that is Madigan's Twitter page, what they have done as Womens' Officer is drone on and on and on about "terfs", fill a bag full of sanitary products, and organise a weekly political discussion group about woke womens' issues.

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Michelleoftheresistance · 06/05/2019 21:15

Shock Bloody hell, he really is shameless isn't he?

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