Maya Forstater

Thanks Genderfreelass. I will read it later and pass it on to her after the week is over. Perhaps I can gently introduce her to the GC stance.

The sad thing is that both these women call themselves feminists. And the other one, were it not for her ultra-woke son, would definitely be on board. She is very outspoken. But also prides herself on how liberal she is at the age of 70-something. I will have to approach this very subtly. The last thing I want is to argue.

Lamaha

Here's the link, might be worth a try in a gentle way.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3579358-Article-on-women-and-sport-in-Guardian

LM really has done wonders in raising support for Maya, so many dedications in the comments 😂😂😂

Lamaha I feel for you.

The thing is though your guardian friend is choosing to no platform other sides of arguments by only reading very biased one sided arguments. I know so many woke guardian readers that will only follow the group thunk and I find that sad.

There was an article yesterday I think in the Guardian that maybe you could use as a slight intro to GC thought. I will try and find the link someone posted it on MN.

Anyway thanks to LM I just um, what shall I say supported The Thing for the third time.

Timelady, I know. But the friend had just said she doesn't watch any TV; she only reads the Guardian.

It's not just the Guardian. The BBC is worse as it's a national broadcaster, not a private publication with an editorial stance. And a lot of people view the BBC as the benchmark for unbiased news reporting - I was one of them, but not any more since the referendum and now their coverage of the trans debacle. Shame on them.

Three cheers for The Times, The Spectator and their support of Maya though!

Me too working

Lamaha - but you were wrong and deigrating yourself by saying the Guardian is too politically correct. It's not. If it were it would be out there supporting an oppressed population - women. They're not. You don't need to mention GC stuff. The Cologne attacks were what made the wool fall from my eyes. It is sexist, pure and simple.

I have two friends staying with me at the moment. We meet once a year and it's always a joyous time for all three -- we have known each other for a long time.

We were talking about various things and one of them said the Guardian is her paper, which she reads online. I said, Oh, I don't read the Guardian any more. She looked really surprised and asked why, and I just said, they're too politically correct, and left it at that.

The trouble was the other friend. She has a gay son who lives in Berlin, living the LGBT life to the full. He and his mum are very, very close and she supports him all the way. I'm pretty sure the GC message hasn't really arrived in Germany, and if it has she'll be on whatever side her son is., which will be woke.

I couldn't come out to them. Not this time, I'm pretty sure the Guardian one would be GC given time, if she knew but since the Guardian doesn't report it, and that's all she reads -- well.

Maybe it's cowardice. I look forward to this week all year and playing along is the easier option right now. I might speak to the Guardian friend afterwards, through email.

But it just shows that the message really hasn't reached everyone yet. The Guardian knows full well what it is doing in not reporting.

And yet The Guardian hasn't chosen to report on this.

DONE!!!!!!!
Maya

60 thousand supports for Maya.

Over 2 thousand people behind you Maya, many more in spirit as well

I know it’s going to be long and drawn out. Everyone is here for the long haul.

Whoop whoop! 🥳

Congrats Maya. Now that’s sorted, give them hell. 💐 Put the extra tenner towards a Women An adult human female tee shirt. 😁

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110 to go! 😬

It's so close Awks! I keep checking to see if it's the target yet.

20 mins to raise £210 which would mean 60k raised in 2 days. Anyone had a winner on Foxybingo tonight and feeling flush 😂

I must admit, it’s refreshing to see the support from men too. They’re finally starting to see the problem.

Puuulllll

Loved this comment.

"Another donation. Because I googled 'the cotton ceiling'. We must have the freedom to question this repressive ideology."

Prawn, I was basing that assumption on greenloon's earlier comment yesterday about why they didn't think Maya would win the case:

thirdly It must be a belief and not an opinion or viewpoint based on the present state of information available

And that is the point I'd like greenloon to explain. Why would it be considered "an opinion or viewpoint based on the present state of information available"?

The comments really are wonderful. Rather a large number dedicated to a particular individual really did make me chuckle 😂😂😂

Glad to have been able to support today.

It’s tantalising close.

Nearly reached the target! Solidarity Maya and Puuuulllll!!!!

If anyone wants a bit of cheering up, the comments under the petition from thousands of concerned citizens are heartwarming.

They are. There's a lot of anger.
It's worth remembering that Maya spoke up because the government launched a public consultation on self-ID. She did so politely and from a woman's perspective, and look what happened. Women are being silenced, and our politicians are standing around gormlessly repeating the TWAW mantra.
Solidarity, Maya. I hope that seeing all the support eases your mind a bit!

If anyone wants a bit of cheering up, the comments under the petition from thousands of concerned citizens are heartwarming.