Swansea Pride

What year was that, roughly?

1975-1977, it couldn't have been later or earlier. I was too young to recall the specific cause but it was something to do with justifications given for violent xenophobia, claiming that the victims in question engaged in unsavoury practices. The other half of the quote was "think me a saint and that which I do will seem saintly".

So we should have faith in the police?

Women not complying is seen as a very specific threat.

Large tracts of the population do not trust the police.

Generally minorities. In this context women and girls are included.

The police work to maintain order of society for benefit of their paymasters.

That is obvious to anyone with half a brain and who reads the news.

Gronky what your vicar said

What year was that, roughly?

It's a very very intetesting thing to say.

Plenty of police officers at protests have not been interested in safety of protesters.

Some may be, obviously.

Some are not.

Some take their ID numbers off, or used to.

I can remember a murder committed by a police officer at a protest. That was covered up.

Blind trust in authority is v foolish.

Women have every reason not to trust the police.

There's a wide gulf between not blindly trusting and automatically distrusting. Based upon the video evidence, it would seem that the police bashers here have acted in a way which deserves mistrust.

Ffs

Item eyes = healthy scepticism

For blind mistrust read item eyes.

Do you believe for example that black men in poor parts of USA should trust the police?

Out of intetest.

The met have terrible form around honesty, ethics, collusion, bribery, racism, and mishandling of sex offences.

Yes I am sceptical of the police. This is healthy.

You think the Lawrence family should have put their faith in the cops?

Yup. I was a police officer that ensured the safety of all involved.

I have absolutely no reason to lie.

You posted that literally minutes after stating you are a Police officer that policed Pride Swansea.

Women have every reason not to trust the police. That’s not ‘blind mistrust’ that’s ‘lived experience’.

Blind trust in people with power is a terrible idea

As is blind mistrust, though I would extend this to include anyone and everyone, in both cases.

Believe what you want

Who. Believe who I want.

Gronky loads of vicars have done monstrous things, with institutional protection

Ditto the police

Not sure what point you're trying to make there

Blind trust in people with power is a terrible idea

And the claim that police are being trained by lobby groups is accurate.
Staff in my force receive Stonewall/Mermaids diversity training plus when the GRA consultation was active last October, my force sent a link to all employees with the quick-fill Stonewall version, no balance to the other one

They obviously weren't removed from the event, they were moved from the path of the parade.
They were not arrested and were rightly allowed to continue to protest with their banners.

Bluntly put, what's the problem here?
That they were moved at all?

ultrababy

Considering the reputation of police, I know who I believe.

My childhood vicar used to say "think me a monster and that which I do will seem monstrous".

I have absolutely no reason to lie. Believe what you want.

As usual completely inaccurate reporting

People who witnessed it say otherwise. Considering the reputation of police, I know who I believe.

Why 'as usual'?

Have the police not been trained in 'equality' by lobby groups who claim that a male can be a woman if he feels like one - and it is a hate crime to point out otherwise.

Have they not been seen to be heavy handed in the whole debate - calling/visiting people who have committed the hideous crime to calling a male person a man - whilst stating that they are understaffed?

Any wonder that sadly their reputation is becoming tarnished and people are trusting them less?

Well I am a Police officer that policed Pride Swansea. As usual completely inaccurate reporting. At no point were they removed from the event. They were sat in the highway blocking the entire parade. They were moved off the highway and allowed to protest on the pavement. HTH

I live outside the UK and I suspect Pride may still be more traditional here, but my neighbours took their twelve year old, newly out, lesbian daughter to Pride and I thought it was a very positive thing that they could.

If it’s become explicit and flagrantly sexual, then perhaps it needs to start being 18+ and stop pretending to be a family event.

Looking at pics it would seem the alphabet soup can be reduced to K for kink + D for dick.

That pic with the men on all fours with the little girls with their rainbow flags following is just awful.

As usual is men and their sexuality that are front and centre, people need to pretend to be ok with it or leave.

Same as page 3, nuts etc just with a rainbow hue.

Is all about men and sex.

Was this the one where there are photos of police posing with human 'police dogs'? Very creepy.