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A Trans Former Editor At The Times Is Suing For Transphobic Bullying And Discrimination

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/05/2019 09:00

www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/patrickstrudwick/times-sued-transphobic-bullying-former-editor

I found this part particularly interesting:

As well as the standard employment law charges such as discrimination and victimisation, the case also rests on an argument that has never before been tested.

O'Donnell and her lawyer — Robin White of Old Square Chambers — allege that it wasn't just what happened in the newsroom but also what those inside it published in the newspaper about trans people that constituted a hostile, transphobic place to work.

Should O’Donnell be successful, therefore, it would mean a newsroom’s output could be deemed an internal, employment issue too. News outlets may in future have to consider how their coverage of trans people and other minority groups could be in breach of employment laws that protect members of these communities on their own staff from discrimination and bullying.

From reading the article it seems that this is quite a significant part of their case and it seems that this could be quite interesting to watch.

On the one hand it can be argued that this individual was subject to horrible bullying and her pleas for her employer to stop inciting public transphobia were ignored.

On the other it could be seen as a tale of an employer who simply could not cope with the demands of their employee who were demanding that didn't consider science in their discussion of a current issue.

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calpop · 04/05/2019 09:58

or care

Uneducated men talk about transwomen in same derogatory fashion as women shocker. Guess you passed Katherine.

Angryresister · 04/05/2019 09:54

Kathryn seems to have managed fine as a male in the company. Clearly not noticing what was happening to women.

OrchidInTheSun · 04/05/2019 09:49

Hmm. In my experience, big companies try and avoid employment tribunals unless they're pretty certain they're going to win.

As for being ignored, talked over and having your ideas nicked - did you not notice that happening to women over the many years you worked there pre-transition? Or was it only when it happened to you that you cared?

AncientLights · 04/05/2019 09:38

The reality of being a woman didn't match Katherine's fantasy of it. It can be shit, as we know.

Newspapers are already suffering massive falls in sales and having to take into account their employees' feelings won't exactly help them survive. If you can't stand the heat, keep out of the kitchen.

BobbinThreadbare123 · 04/05/2019 09:34

Pretty much all of this reads like they genuinely did treat Kathryn as a woman; being talked over in meetings? Welcome to being a lass!

Needmoresleep · 04/05/2019 09:14

“If O’Donnell wins, it could also set a precedent for news covering a range of minorities that are protected under the Equality Act 2010 from discrimination and abuse: gay people, disabled people, BAME people and those from different faiths”

And women?

calpop · 04/05/2019 09:05

I used to work at The Times. Her account of the atmosphere is very much how I used to feel as a woman. Welcome to our world Katherine.

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