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Rape crisis centre - staff trained to “ask the cis guest to leave”

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2BthatUnnoticed · 01/05/2019 13:03

I know most trans are perfectly nice people just living their lives, who need the same services as everyone.

Re rape crisis centres, I think a way to balance everyone’s needs would be dedicated facilities for transwomen.

Remember, a TW may choose to:

  • have zero hormonal or surgical treatment, hence retain their pre-transition physiology and facial hair
  • dress like a man (see “trans butch lesbian)

In other words, it may be impossible to discern their gender identity visually (the training covers this).

Also, Self-ID would mean that transition requires only a stat dec. We know men will abuse this, anyone who thinks otherwise is living in a privilege bubble.

Rape crisis centre - staff trained to “ask the cis guest to leave”
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FizzyGreenWater · 01/05/2019 13:33

Jesus fuck.

I despair.

QueenOfTheTofuTree · 01/05/2019 13:29

Can I just ask why it's the 'cis' woman who has to leave and not the transwoman? Just bloody why?

GeordieGenes · 01/05/2019 13:26

Whoever wrote on that white board has blood on their hands

QueenOfTheTofuTree · 01/05/2019 13:25

I thought the point of rape crisis centres were to help women with their trauma. What good will telling a traumatised woman to leave do?

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2BthatUnnoticed · 01/05/2019 13:24

Someone has tweeted it to Penny Mordaunt, Maria Miller and W & E Committee asking them to comment.

Even saying “identifies as a women” might be transphobic - must say “is a woman” to the guest having a trauma response, or you risk affirming their “transphobia.”

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Mylittlepony374 · 01/05/2019 13:23

I've been a lurker here for a while. Never posted. I've just been tipped over the edge.

Ask the woman who has been raped by a male to leave rape crisis/ deny them a service because they can't control a trauma response to a "male bodied person"???

What the actual fuckity fucking fuck is the world coming to?

Agree 100% with michelleoftheresistance.

AssassinatedBeauty · 01/05/2019 13:22

Where is that image from and is it genuinely from a training session for actual rape crisis staff?

If true, asking a woman to leave a rape crisis centre because they are traumatised by the presence of a male bodied person is disgusting. As is calling them transphobic for their reactions.

KneelJustKneel · 01/05/2019 13:21

That is truly shocking.

Why cant this be in the news!?!?

Genderfreelass · 01/05/2019 13:19

What Michelle said.

Redshoeblueshoe · 01/05/2019 13:17

Stonewall can quite easily afford to set up rape crisis centres, and refuges for men and TW
So why don't they ?
Well we all know why

Michelleoftheresistance · 01/05/2019 13:13

Not to mention: Do NOT fucking call me cis.

Michelleoftheresistance · 01/05/2019 13:13

If you can't control your trauma responses not to upset the male, and if you can't play along pretending the male is female, then you lose your right to services.

FUCK. THAT.

This should be in every national fucking newspaper. Everywhere. And every fucking politician should be forced to defend why the hell they believe in withdrawing services from women who won't put men's feelings above theirs even when they've been fucking raped.

QueenofallIsee · 01/05/2019 13:11

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2BthatUnnoticed · 01/05/2019 13:09

Oops crossed with you Queen - that comment wasn’t to you Smile

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2BthatUnnoticed · 01/05/2019 13:08

Also this is not the fault of TW at all - feedback I think needs to address the crisis centre and it’s management, who are training staff this way.

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QueenOfTheTofuTree · 01/05/2019 13:08

I think if a trans woman is truly nice then they wouldn't be volunteering/seeking support in a rape crisis centre tbh. Any transwoman doing this is doing it to make a point imo.