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WHAT THE FUCK

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thebluearsefly · 29/04/2019 21:04

Hayden has turned up on Caroline Fs doorstop to serve an anti harassment junction?! Is this true????

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GirlDownUnder · 30/04/2019 11:45

Just for info Caro's support thread

Caroline farrow support thread 2
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3550699-caroline-farrow-support-thread-2

SophoclesTheFox · 30/04/2019 11:40

This is extremely serious and I am asking all the brilliant women of MN FWR not to keep handing power to someone by giving them the attention that is fuelling their behaviour

I don’t disagree, floral, and you’re absolutely right that we should try not to inflame the situation, but...

The persecution is happening in Hayden’s head. The “transphobia” exists in Hayden’s head. The outrage is totally manufactured by Hayden and Harrow, so to a large extent it doesn’t matter a whit if there was one post complaining about it here, or thousands, because to Hayden, the effect is the same. The injury is the same. Because it’s not about what we do here, it’s that we exist. Hayden was barred from here for violating the talk guidelines, but insists that it was “transphobia”, because that is Hayden’s perception of what happened.

Harassment and abuse is enabled by silence, by not wanting to be seen to be making a fuss, and one of the reasons I think they go for Caroline so much is that she just won’t be silenced like a good little girl, she won’t slink away embarrassed by what they’re doing. And why should she? She’s playing a rigged game where one side won’t play by the rules, so she’s right to not just roll over.

BettyDuMonde · 30/04/2019 11:36

People who turn up uninvited on other people’s doorsteps to intimidate and frighten them are the aggressors, not the victims

This. There is absolutely no other reason to have done this in person.

I’ve seen the photographic proof. I recommend others do too.

Jellybabiesarebabies · 30/04/2019 11:28

Thanks 2b.

2BthatUnnoticed · 30/04/2019 11:26

Just letting people know if they didn’t know yet, the Caro support thread is back.

Agree with Floral too.

And although I don’t agree with Caro on many things, I will contribute € for legal fees. Stay strong Caro Flowers

WineIsMyCarb · 30/04/2019 11:26

Yes to the crowdfunder

Jellybabiesarebabies · 30/04/2019 11:24

Reckon so. Keyboard warriors sitting in their mums basements imo.

Purplecatshopaholic · 30/04/2019 11:22

Who even ARE these people? Clearly been on planet Purplecat too long...

Jellybabiesarebabies · 30/04/2019 11:20

I'd suggest reporting those accounts that are continuing to harass Caroline by trying to shut down the crowdfunder as well. If you are blocked from viewing you can still report the accounts for targeted harrassement by clicking on the three dots in the top right hand corner on the twitter profile and following through the report steps.

Jellybabiesarebabies · 30/04/2019 11:11

I'll support a crowd funder for Caroline. Need to put a stop to this nonsense.

NotThe · 30/04/2019 11:07

Spotted this earlier - any crowdfunding might need to be done without this delightful crowd knowing

WHAT THE FUCK
DonkeyHohtay · 30/04/2019 11:03

I love the way the Telegraph says "Stephanie Hayden, a commentator and activist who is legally female" with the obvious subtext of "Yeah, we don't believe that either but there you go".

This is getting totally out of hand now.

littlbrowndog · 30/04/2019 10:59

Am always skint but will for sure bung a few in for you caro

Let us know

OVAgroundWOMBlingfree · 30/04/2019 10:58

Happy to give to any crowdfunder, as are several of the women at the school gates this morning.

BertrandRussell · 30/04/2019 10:56

“And huge support to Ms Farrow. I don't agree with her religious views & the social conservatism that stems from them, but she's clear, fair, and speaks without malice in defence of children”

I agree. I do wish her views on gender issues cane from a different place though. Obviously I support her- but it’s difficult to separate the two.

RicketyClickety · 30/04/2019 10:55

Another person here who doesn't always agree with Caroline but am 100% willing to chip in for a crowdfunder.

SlightAggrandising · 30/04/2019 10:54

More support here. For background, there's plenty on google, let's keep this thread clear of that lest it goes again.

BeansandRice · 30/04/2019 10:53

And huge support to Ms Farrow. I don't agree with her religious views & the social conservatism that stems from them, but she's clear, fair, and speaks without malice in defence of children.

She has been harassed and abused - she's been subject to classic DARVO.

TheFormidableMrsC · 30/04/2019 10:53

I can't add anything useful and I only came across this story because of the legal issue with MN and a few things on Twitter. It did strike me as a real case of narcissistic bullying and control just from the little I knew. I would be happy to donate a little to a crowdfunder. It's quite astonishing.

SD1978 · 30/04/2019 10:52

Confused by the article- Hayden didn't know the substance of the allegations or Caroline didn't. Interesting that a two way public media difference of opinion can be seen as only one being harrowing. Surely continuing to respond to the 'hundreds' of tweets sent makes this a difference of opinion as there are multiple responses? Best of luck to Caroline.

Hellmistress · 30/04/2019 10:52

How would a person set up a crowdfunder? I have no idea but I'm ready to contribute to one if anybody does. flexes debit card

BeansandRice · 30/04/2019 10:48

Oops sorry wrong thread Blush

Saavhi · 30/04/2019 10:47

Can someone provide some background, please? Names look familiar but can't quite recall.

BeansandRice · 30/04/2019 10:46

Ugh, I missed the conflation of intersex with transgender.

THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.

I feel so sorry for women such as Caster Semenya, when there's all this other inaccurate stuff flying around.

S1naidSucks · 30/04/2019 10:46

I’d be delighted to give money to a crowdfund for you Caroline. You know how bloody marvellous the women of FWR are and we love to support a worthy female cause, even if it’s a £1, all those pounds add up. 💐