Rape victims must hand over phone or police won't pursue crime

I went through this and it was years ago. My investigator started to act suspicious of me once I was crying about losing my work phone. It took me 2 years after the case ended to get it back. Very traumatising

I dont even think that was the worst comment jessica

The facebook comment is dreadful...

Suspects' phones are routinely seized and interrogated.

I've always wondered what exactly is enough evidence to get a conviction. If the woman who filmed her own rape didn't have enough evidence then what on earth is enough?

This is absolutely absurd. There were plenty of flirty texts between me and the guy who raped me, I went on a date with him and was actually quite smitten, planned on sleeping with him as things progressed. Didn’t stop him raping me though.

And no, I didn’t report it. I knew (as did he I’m sure) that there was no way I’d be considered a credible witness with that background.

And this is why I will never report a sexual crime

One suspects that's the entire point.

It makes men look bad doesnt it. So lets make it as difficult invasive and degrading as possible .

And this is why I will never report a sexual crime

"Despite the man admitting it via messaging , there wasn't enough evidence as the police said they weren't able to be sure it was him who had logged into his account and messaged me those things"

"Then it's pointless then isn't it angry just another way to show women and girls who's boss"

Indeed, it is pointless because, conversely, police cannot therefore be sure that it was the victim who logged into their phone and sent any messages either.

So, yes, this could now seem to be a tactic to deter victims from reporting sexual offences to police.

I want to know the exact details of what sort of messages and other information is being sought and why. This information needs to be listed in detail on any consent form.

The use of the victims mobile phone will help more cases than it hinders. It's not just for Rape, it is a form all victims of crime are required to sign.

Let's also remember the woman who used her phone to record her own rape who still ended up being told she wasnt the right kind of victim and the man got off

Despite the man admitting it via messaging , there wasn't enough evidence as the police said they weren't able to be sure it was him who had logged into his account and messaged me those things
Then it's pointless then isnt it just another way to show women and girls who's boss

They told me it would contain evidence JackyHolyoake I asked them what evidence and they said messages between me and the man who assaulted me. I asked why couldn't they get them from his phone and they said they needed to go through both.

Despite the man admitting it via messaging , there wasn't enough evidence as the police said they weren't able to be sure it was him who had logged into his account and messaged me those things...

Has anyone asked the police why they need to do this?

The police need to spell out in detail exactly what information they seek to discover by searching through a victim's private material in this way.

A friend was sexually assaulted almost two years ago now, he was asked to hand in his phone to be examined. When it eventually went to court his phone location and the phone location of the accused proved they had been in the same place at the same time. There was no cctv so that couldn’t be relied on, the accused also had lied about where they were.

The locatiom data from their phones was the only proof beyond word of mouth they were together, without that there probably wouldn’t have been a conviction.

Sorry for duplicate posts, the app never works properly!

I had to hand my phone over actually and that was 2.5 years ago.

It's only where there's a reasonable line of enquiry.

It's not a speculative action, but where the phone is considered to hold vital evidence to a particular line of enquiry, and its all, not just rape victims
However, I cannot see any legitimate reason for rape victims to be under this ruling

This is just crazy but nothing surprises me anymore. I've been the victim of multiple sexual crimes unfortunately and I've had to hand over clothing etc that I never got back.

I work for a company with a lot of protected data and they make us use our own phones so would this not present an issue of data protection and risk my job?

Fucking disgraceful!

Any info relating to communications with the rapist if known will be on THEIR phone!

If the rapist isn't known to the victim there's absolutely no good reason for doing this.

Plus with modern tech they're easily able to access the victims sm accounts etc WITHOUT having the actual phone if they're trying to eg find a possible stalker/perpetrator.

I cannot think of one good reason to do this not one.