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In general, what do you feel about The LGBT Foundation using a 'gender fluid' person to promote lesbian visibility day?

255 replies

ChrisPrattAteMyHomework · 26/04/2019 20:43

No links. No judgement of any one perticular person.

Just a discussion about the GENERAL situation as my original post was removed for not being in the spirit

Yet another lesbian deletion.

Am really getting fucking sick if this.

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Trebe · 27/04/2019 21:19

Is that intended at me?

Thepearofwisdom · 27/04/2019 21:09

Surely this is Lesbian erasure rather than Lesbian visibility 😡

Trebe · 27/04/2019 21:09

Personally I think the trans political movement is hurting women, plus it feels like there will be confrontation when it comes to mal and female brains as you cant have it both ways. To form a valid arguement you cant hold 2 contradictory arguements at the same time, at the very least its hypocritical and at its worst its going to ruin a lot of peoples lives. We need to stop segmenting society.

Erythronium · 27/04/2019 17:43

Men get what they want, don't they? Including using the name "lesbian" for themselves if they feel like it,

Just disgusting and disgraceful. Coming across MTF trans calling themselves radical lesbian feminists back in the day is what peak-transed me. I couldn't believe men could think they were lesbians or try to claim the term. I still don't.

FriarTuck · 27/04/2019 17:08

Lesbian = biological woman sexually attracted to another biological woman. End of.
(Note - if you have a penis you're not a woman and you're not a lesbian)

BuzzPeakWankBobbly · 27/04/2019 17:08

Yet again, "gender fluid" seems to = "masculine". Why is that?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 27/04/2019 17:06

Wish they could bloody well appropriate the menopause. They can have it in my opinion. And period pains, PMT...

ScottishDoll · 27/04/2019 17:03

Men appropriating lesbianism.
Men appropriating feminism.
Men appropriating women's spaces.
Men appropriating women's groups.
Men appropriating women's language.
Men appropriating.

That's all I see in all of this. Just straight up theft.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 27/04/2019 16:49

Gender isn’t sex. There you have it.

Cheekyfeckery · 27/04/2019 16:47

Makes my piss boil.

TheCuriousMonkey · 27/04/2019 16:14

feckery, they also had Paris Lees and India Willoughby in that list. Both also attracted to men afaik.

Cheekyfeckery · 27/04/2019 14:21

Diva - which I thought was a magazine aimed at Lesbians - had a gay man (MB) in its list of influential lesbians in its celebration of Lesbians.

Even if by some intersectional, inclusive stretch of the imagination, MB still isn’t into women.

And actively hates lesbians.

Fucking mental. All of it.

Michelleoftheresistance · 27/04/2019 14:15

Wasn’t the original Pomo position that language is everything

And yet it so often fails to use language with any kind of clarity, in terms comprehensible to the layman, to see the point of shared meaning, or to be about actual communication. Often it's little more than self indulgent wanking and tossing about of buzzphrases, in the style of that smug prat in the office who exhorts you to diarise and to unify your bluesky thinking while tasting the strawberry of the heart of the mission.

AlwaysComingHome · 27/04/2019 14:04

Wasn’t the original Pomo position that language is everything - that there is ‘nothing outside the text’ (Derrida: ‘il n'y a pas de hors-texte’)?

Language determines reality but somehow language hasn’t yet caught up with this person?

LangCleg · 27/04/2019 13:59

language hasn’t really evolved enough to explain fully who I am

Yes it has, mate. Here you go: malignant narcissist.

HTH!

Mumfun · 27/04/2019 13:52

Sorry Chris. It is really shit. Think it was Kathleen Stock mentioning on Twitter going on lesbian dating, to lesbian events etc and always being faced by lots of transwomen. Just horrible to have everything over run by non lesbians

It is about male sexual fetish for lesbians.And many males fear and hate of women too as they want to control them.

Think it will get worse for a while. But again the general public will see through this shit.

And I think we should keep pushing the so called lesbian TW to confirm they will happily date similarly endowed TW. The rejection will be really telling

maslinpan · 27/04/2019 13:50

I think we could probably help to fully explain who you are. "Navel-gazing and self-important bore" rolls off the tongue quite nicely, in my opinion.

Ereshkigal · 27/04/2019 13:29

language hasn’t really evolved enough to explain fully who I am

Wow Grin

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Ereshkigal · 27/04/2019 00:36

If it wasn't so horrible, it would be hilarious. No idea how people can believe this. I think they must hate lesbians and women a lot as a starting point.

Yes.

ILuvBirdsEye · 27/04/2019 00:34

It's so stupid. I don't know how anyone can claim to believe this.

If it wasn't so horrible, it would be hilarious. No idea how people can believe this. I think they must hate lesbians and women a lot as a starting point.

birdsdestiny · 27/04/2019 00:22

Yes but read stonewalls twitter feed, the whole fucking thing is breaking down. I honestly don't see how an organisation with that much dissent for anyone to see, can survive. Imagine going on the wwf twitter, for example, and seeing lots of people saying you bastards you hate animals you do. Its unsustainable surely.

Absolutepowercorrupts · 27/04/2019 00:03

I think the original thread was deleted because the person on the poster was clearly identified, as in, the actual meaning of the word. Not pixelated or obscured so identifiable. Or outing, so possibly not in the spirit.
This whole shitshow is going to get worse before it gets better.
Men are riding roughshod over women's boundaries.
Stonewall has truly become the most homophobic institution of our time. When you think of the reasons that movement started, I'll bet the founders would be weeping at what is being done to Lesbian women. It's a fucking disgrace.

Charley50 · 26/04/2019 23:35

I'm with you OP and with all actual women ❤️

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