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Team of ministers looking at trans policy

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Imnobody4 · 26/04/2019 15:41

Have just come across this item in questions to Women &Equalities Dept.
I didn't know about this, did anyone else.

Liz McInnesShadow Minister (Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs)

In the response to the consultation on the Gender Recognition Act 2004, what consideration is being given to the approach of the International Association of Athletics Federations and its use of testosterone levels to determine whether a trans athlete competes in a women’s or a men’s race?

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Penny MordauntThe Secretary of State for International Development, Minister for Women and Equalities

The hon. Lady raises an important issue, although it is slightly separate from the very narrow remit of the Gender Recognition Act. Every Department is facing all sorts of issues in relation to trans people, so we have brought together a team of Ministers and officials across Government to make sure that policy is where it needs to be. I have also had separate meetings with the Minister for Sport to discuss both elite and community sport. Many of these decisions, particularly at the elite level, are for sporting bodies to lead on, although there are safety issues as well. I can assure her that these will be ongoing meetings across all Departments and that we will make sure that every Department provides services and support and has the right policies in place for modern times.

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Galvantula · 27/04/2019 06:21

Wtf Orchid. Shock

That's...i can't even.

OrchidInTheSun · 26/04/2019 22:44

This is one of the slides from the Stonewall conference today. See sex on that slide? Or even gender? Nope. Women are not discriminated any more in Stonewall's brave new world. We have been eradicated altogether

Team of ministers looking at trans policy
littlbrowndog · 26/04/2019 22:28

What plan mordaunt. What was your plan

To ditch women and girls for ur mates at stonewall

ByGrabtharsHammarWhatASaving · 26/04/2019 22:23

I don’t seek to convince you today that everything is going according to plan

The plan being that they could slip this all under the radar without women noticing until it was too late? Why does she hate women so much?

Melroses · 26/04/2019 22:13

It is about time they started using that male -breastfeeding- milking kit
Get a lot out of a bull, you know. Wink

Michelleoftheresistance · 26/04/2019 22:09

And they keep insisting on making milk and baby cows via quick visual inspection based on biological fact as opposed to intensive individual interview.

donquixotedelamancha · 26/04/2019 22:04

"Hmmm, wondering what trans issues are being discussed at Defra.

Some trans exclusionaty radical farmers still don't accept that transcows are cows.

AlwaysTawnyOwl · 26/04/2019 21:18

Looking at the transcript makes me much less happy:-

"And there is a particularly strong imperative to support the rights of trans people in the workplace. In fact worries about different documents with different gender markers can make trans people fearful about even applying for a job. The government wants to make this process, and the wider experience of being trans, much easier. We want to reform the way that trans people can legally change their gender, and make the process far less bureaucratic and intrusive. We held a public consultation last year on how best to do this, and we received more than 100,000 responses and we’re working hard to analyse them and will publish our response very shortly"

MindTheMinotaur · 26/04/2019 21:11

Every Department? Hmmm, wondering what trans issues are being discussed at Defra.

Needmoresleep · 26/04/2019 21:01

Quests, maybe not CB, but it would be important for.social housing where teenagers of different sexes are not expected to share.

Want a move...bring little Johnny along wearing a dress.

clitherow · 26/04/2019 19:25

My critics have chided at me for saying this, accusing me of being “far too woke for my own good.” But this is not about being woke or pc or trendy. It’s about the margin victory in every endeavour we set our hearts on.

What on earth does she mean by this?

And

Why don’t we harness human spirit and accept and celebrate brave, passionate and loyal people? Because if we do they will repay those that enable them to thrive, and when you do this not only to you recognise their leadership but you become a leader yourself.

almost seems like she is promoting the workplace as cult.

QuestaVecchiaCasa · 26/04/2019 19:20

Looks like the woke brigade have been at work in the Child Benefit office:
www.gov.uk/report-changes-child-benefit

Gives advice how you can report your child's change of gender. I know that in some limited circumstances CB can be paid until the "qualifying young person" is 20 and so may be able to obtain a GRC but I feel this is all part of the movement to normalise the idea that children are born in the wrong body. Surely "change of gender" is irrelevant anyway as it won't result in any change in payments. A change of name is all that needs to be reported.

littlbrowndog · 26/04/2019 19:12

Mordaunt not resigned yet. Taking money for a job where she panders to the T. what a waste of space she is

And a disgrace for taking money and not doing her job. Betraying women and girls

clitherow · 26/04/2019 19:09

My guess is PM means self-ID, before all those pesky women got involved and started with their awful bigotry ie holding meetings, campaigning for women's and girls' rights and selfish things like that.

Yes I interpreted it that way, too.

I find that whole speech sinister. It is like a coded way of saying that they will overcome the objections to self-id - that the GEO being taken into the Cabinet Office will ensure that this fight will be at the heart of government. When she says things are not going to plan, what plan is this and who is party to it?

Ereshkigal · 26/04/2019 18:54

My guess is PM means self-ID, before all those pesky women got involved and started with their awful bigotry ie holding meetings, campaigning for women's and girls' rights and selfish things like that.

Yes I interpreted it that way, too.

BogusBollocksCraps · 26/04/2019 18:16

I want to see the the phrase maintaining single sex provision as directed by the Equality Act instead, is that so hard to ask?

cwg1 · 26/04/2019 18:05

My guess is PM means self-ID, before all those pesky women got involved and started with their awful bigotry ie holding meetings, campaigning for women's and girls' rights and selfish things like that.

MilletSentToForceIt · 26/04/2019 17:52

And these will be the same sporting associations taking a lead that are throwing women and girls rights under the water/floor mat - I’m looking at you Swim England and British Gymnastics and probably many more!

Melroses · 26/04/2019 17:42

hmmmmmm???

youllhavehadyourtea · 26/04/2019 17:38

It’s no secret that we meet at a time of great turbulence, many of you are worried about recent events and I don’t seek to convince you today that everything is going according to plan, or that this is quite what we intended or that you can please all of the people all of the time. But what I can do is remind you that we still have much to be proud of.

What's she on about?

Brexit?

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Imnobody4 · 26/04/2019 17:33

theOtherPamAyres
Ugh, that speech is excruciating.

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Melroses · 26/04/2019 17:20

It looks like a committee for papering over the cracks of the self-id policy - so no one will actually have their neck broken in 'womens' rugby, ie the most blatent obvious issues that hit headlines.

theOtherPamAyres · 26/04/2019 17:17

Penny Mordaunt delivered a speech at a Stonewall Conference today.

You would have expected her to mention all those Ministers beavering away on the Trans Business. Not a sausage. Instead, a lot of empty, banal sentiments and the mention of a transman complaining about the lack of sick leave to facilitate surgery.

www.gov.uk/government/speeches/minister-for-women-and-equalities-penny-mordaunt-stonewall-workplace-conference-london-2019

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Imnobody4 · 26/04/2019 17:13

Yes 'modern' rather inclusive seems to be the new buzzword. This sentence appeared in response from my MP. Like it or not, the modern world will present our children with serious questions about gender and identity from an early age
Strange isn't it when theyre taking us back to the 50s.

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SirVixofVixHall · 26/04/2019 17:06

Penny Mordaunt, what a traitor to women she is.
I also hate the “for modern times” nonsense. This backward, homophobic and misogynistic trend is not modern, it is as old as the hills. Dressed up in a different frock that’s all.