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UPDATE: Gender Critical Women vs Labour Party, Court Claim Filed

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JenniferJames · 25/04/2019 21:39

Hi all,

For those who don't know and those who do... a group of anti-self-id feminists, mainly from the Labour Party raised more than £30,000 to take the party to court over the inclusion of self-identified transwomen on All-Woman-Shortlists.

I set up the crowdfunder 15 minths ago... was suspended almost immediately and have since been expelled by the party (COINCIDENCE?). But hey: they can expel me from the Labour Party but they can't expel me from the Labour Movement.

We appointed solicitors who appointed a barrister, Amanda Jones of St James St. Chambers... they went through all the correct pre-action protocol but Labour refused to put the question before a judge.

Our only option was then to take it to the High Court. The case is now finalised, printed out and will be filed with the court this week. Hopefully the issue of self-id impinging on women's right to participation, representation, safety, privacy and dignity has a higher public profile than when we started crowdfunding. Particularly with the immense contributions we have had from our women sports stars such as Martina and Sharron Davies.

I want to thank everyone on Mumsnet who has supported us: whether financially, politically or just with your kindness, solidarity and encouragement. We are mighty.

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GeordieGenes · 27/04/2019 13:10

Please please please get them to define “woman”!

happyon · 26/04/2019 23:01

Thank you ✊🏼

Voice0fReason · 26/04/2019 22:23

Thank you for all of your hard work on this.

LangCleg · 26/04/2019 16:28

As I see the action by JJ, it has two main components. To get Labour to comply with the law, whichever way they decide to play it. To make Labour's decision-making and actions be open to scrutiny.

This.

nauticant · 26/04/2019 11:39

There would be nothing to stop Labour scrapping all-women shortlists RuffleCrow. However, this would be something they would need to change publicly and it would lead to questions.

That's far better than what Labour is currently doing, ie scrapping all-women shortlists by stealth by allowing people who are not women onto them and pretending that nothing has changed. Which means they're operating against the Equality Act 2010.

As I see the action by JJ, it has two main components. To get Labour to comply with the law, whichever way they decide to play it. To make Labour's decision-making and actions be open to scrutiny.

JustHereWithMyPopcorn · 26/04/2019 11:34

Well done Jennifer and thank you!

Daughterofmabel · 26/04/2019 11:25

Amazing. Will donate again

Joisanofthedales · 26/04/2019 11:13

Sorry that should be Lamaha

Joisanofthedales · 26/04/2019 11:12

Yamaha
Just read the blog. Awesome

Ereshkigal · 26/04/2019 11:10

I don't think so, the allowance of them relies on a specific exemption in the EA. Otherwise all men could challenge as sex discrimination.

RuffleCrow · 26/04/2019 11:08

Another thought: I wonder if they'll end up saying that AWS aren't a legal requirement anyway and that the LP is going over and above what most political parties do by having them in the first place so they can do what they want?

RuffleCrow · 26/04/2019 11:05

Fantastic news. I hope it goes really well.

Joisanofthedales · 26/04/2019 11:02

Wow just wow and thank you.
Happy to donate again if needed.
I think you are all brave and stunning 😊
FlowersFlowersFlowers

OrchidInTheSun · 26/04/2019 10:13

Great work Jennifer.

LangCleg · 26/04/2019 10:06

Thanks for everything, Jen.

I remember us all hanging over the crowdfunding when it was first set up, watching the totals rise so quickly, and how we all felt so much less alone. It was an important thing, regardless of the actual case.

nauticant · 26/04/2019 10:00

Well done for doing this. Also, well done for taking your time and aiming for a sound legal case rather than being in a hurry in order to look good.

It's clear that many organisations have no interest in following the law and it's vital that they be made either to comply with the law or to campaign, and do so publicly, to get the law changed. Choosing to operate in ways that ignore the law is allowing this gender identity ideology to embed itself more deeply into our culture by stealth.

Redshoeblueshoe · 26/04/2019 09:39

Thank you

Lamaha · 26/04/2019 09:25

Oh, and as I said in the post that was deleted (as it might identify me): jolly good show Jennifer! Thank you so much for doing this, and let's hope it is as HUGE as it promised to be. Flowers
And then we can all celebrate here Wine

TirisfalPumpkin · 26/04/2019 08:54

If this goes our way, and I really hope it does, this is going to be a fantastically unambiguous bit of case law re. self ID not being lawful.

Wipe the floor with ‘em!

SisterWendyBuckett · 26/04/2019 08:54

Thank you Jennifer Thanks

That may not sound much but what you're doing means so much to us all.

LizzieSiddal · 26/04/2019 08:49

It’s being put before the High court this week, does anyone know the timing from this point?

Is a judgement made there and then or could it go on for weeks?

Unformidable · 26/04/2019 08:48

Thank you Jennifer. Labour has lost me over this too, and I am politically homeless.

Off to look for the crowdfunder link now Smile

ChattyLion · 26/04/2019 08:43

Thanks for posting Lamaha- great blog.

Lamaha · 26/04/2019 07:34

A great blog post on the issue, and also the place where I found the crowdfunder link Wink. Wonderful comments too.
notthenewsinbriefs.wordpress.com/2018/01/28/are-all-women-shortlists-transphobic/

ShiveringCoyote · 26/04/2019 07:34

Well done OP. This ridiculous bowing down to fantasy lives has to end because children are being mutilated and sterilised to support it.

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