Museum forced to stop calling ships "she"

It was on Have I Got News For You too.

Yes, it was beautifully handled on the News Quiz. I agree that they seemed fairly exasperated at the whole notion of prattling on about pronouns

This was just discussed on The News Quiz:

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0004f6r (from 20.20)

Andy Zaltzman did fine work in kicking off the segment. The other panellists then joined the fun. There seemed to me a vibe of irritation at being forced to comply with endless gender identities.

That was an intetesting article thanks yeah nah yeah! Agreed with it wholeheartedly!

For the love of Brizo, leave ships female - I find it to be homage based on my dad's perspective. I find it fantastic that powerful air and sea vessels are considered female - our prowess is undeniable.

I don't care either.
Hurricanes were named after women only until 1979. Quite an interesting short article.
www.history.com/news/why-hurricanes-and-tropical-storms-were-only-named-after-women

How weird :/

Have the vandals explained why they're doing it or are the museum etc guessing?

The naming of boats and cars as female is a bit weird and I'm sure there's some feminist analysis knocking around somewhere about it... But even as someone who gets exercised from a feminist perspective about what many would consider pretty minor things, I can't get worked up about ships being female...

The assumption here is it's TRAs, I bet in the wider world this will be imagined as the work of crazed feminists!

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I would have thought people here would be happy to remove female pronouns from inanimate objects

No one here is ever happy about the rewriting of history, bullying, or female erasure of any kind.
Most boats are given a name. Objects with a name become anthropomorphised so need a pronoun.

I agree it was absurd for the museum to cave in to this one mad idiot vandal.

TM's take on this ...

Genuine pub lol

They genuinely cannot afford to keep replacing museum quality signs which are, I imagine, quite expensive.
I - and, I'm sure, lots of others - would have been happy to contribute towards the cost of some CCTV security cameras, to catch the idiot responsible.
Having got away with this one, what else are the vandals going to wreck?

This is a massive overreaction, can you imagine attending the meeting where this was decided?

Sadly I don't think it is. This is a very small, poorly visited museum (but excellent!) that can barely afford to look after the exhibits and buildings that they have. They genuinely cannot afford to keep replacing museum quality signs which are, I imagine, quite expensive.

How much do they need to replace the damage?

I've communicated before with people at this museum. They were absolutely lovely, more than helpful and I feel pretty sad that some idiot with an axe to grind has spoiled their signs. Whatever the reason behind ships being called 'she'.

Looks as if this was a reaction to just two minor acts of vandalism. This is a massive overreaction, can you imagine attending the meeting where this was decided? Unbelievable.

Now on Angry People in Local Newspapers - with a lot of comments
m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2473434072701581&id=922716137773390&tn=%2As%2As-R

Why have they been identified as female?
I always got the impression it was because historically it was a bunch of men controlling ‘her’. Happy to be educated though!

Because like mothers, ships are safe vessels which carry their occupants; and gong back to the ship is like returning home.

Their English was a million times better than my French. I am always impressed when people are interviewed in a foreign language.

Ah, ok, the French thing was a red herring
But again, if it's not their native language I would cut them a little slack over the error.

He was speaking English - in fact I heard 2 say it and be gently corrected. To be honest My niece is a fire fighter and doesn’t care of people call her a fireman (usually small kids).

I'm surprised at the reaction.
I would have thought people here would be happy to remove female pronouns from inanimate objects.

I heard many a French commentator talking about the 'firemen' at Notre Dame being hastily corrected by the interviewer repeating 'So you say that there were 500 fireFIGHTERS at the blaze then...?'

I don't understand this, unless they were speaking English? French for firefighter is "pompier". If plural it would be "les pompiers" for both male, female or mixed firefighters.

It’s time organisation s stood up to those fucking bullies.

Rember birds eye and their way of dealing with the bullies.

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It's hit the BBC too...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-scotland-48037933

Love Titania!