Baroness Barker (LibDem) attempts to smear GC women's groups

I can see that Goosefoot. But those of us engaged in this battle are surely not the usual demographic for such protests? Middle-aged women (many of them lesbians) aren’t usually up in arms.

She’s dangerously arrogant and will, if given her head, do enormous damage to the women she should be protecting,

"Hasn’t it crossed her mind, even for an instant, that there might be a reason those groups are appearing? That women all over the U.K. and further afield have not suddenly gone mad, or are evil, but perhaps have seen something she’s missed?"

There is a good sized chunk of the left that is used to, and I suspect enjoys, the idea that large chucks of grass-roots discontent are about people being stupid xenophobic racists who don't know what is good for them. That sort of attitude is good practice for being dismissive of any other group that seems like they are espousing the wrong opinions.

Unelected peer who sits in the House of Lords, the second chamber of our Parliament, slags off grassroots political organising by lesbians. Hypocrite.

”They completely (and conveniently) ignore how this segregation would be policed,”

Yet so-called “integration” won’t be policed at all. We all have to pretend invading men in women’s prisons or refuges will magically do no harm, despite all the evidence that suggests otherwise.

She really is a piece of work. One thing to support the trans ideology. Another for a senior female politician to smear grassroots protest groups that are springing up everywhere.

Hasn’t it crossed her mind, even for an instant, that there might be a reason those groups are appearing? That women all over the U.K. and further afield have not suddenly gone mad, or are evil, but perhaps have seen something she’s missed?

There’s nothing worse than a grass roots organisation funded by its supporters. Obviously.

Deep sigh..........

*This line of thinking started decades ago with articles and books by academics based on the ideological belief that trans women cannot exist.

It became immaterial how trans women were supposed to function in our society – probably because such people want trans women to disappear from our society. At best they call for segregation – trans people in their own areas, not mixing with anyone else. They completely (and conveniently) ignore how this segregation would be policed, instead relying on promoting unjustified fear.*

If you build your arguments out of strawmen then don't be surprised when it goes up in flames. FFS how many times do we have to explain that pro women does not mean anti trans.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3523074-Protest-voting-for-the-politically-homeless

What a pathetic article. A group of lesbians say things I don't like and they organise and demonstrate, what's democracy coming to. Make everyone listen to me instead. My opinion of women in politics couldnt get any lower, she's not even elected.

Always, there isn't a NOTA option but there is a way of spoiling your ballot paper that records you didn't want to vote for any of the candidates. I posted a thread about it a couple of months ago. It was called Protest Voting for the Politically Homeless. I'll see if I can find it and post a link.

She could of course address the issues raised but as ever side steps it completely. A familiar tactic from trans advocates.

Yes, just damn the general public having minds of their own and organising for themselves when the establishment want to force them to obey.

Not liberal. Not even basically democratic. Not a party you'd want anywhere near power.

When the election comes round is there a None of the Above option?

I don’t just mean spoiling the paper, but a positive choice against any of the candidates.

I'm a former paying member and was actually considering voting LibDem in the EU elections, but this has reminded me yet again why I can't support them. They are openly hostile towards women like me, and they don't have a clue about the damage they are causing.

Sounds like she'd prefer all political campaigners to be registered and approved by the government. Doesn't sound very liberal to me....