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Actress feted for play celebrating her bravery in staying with her paedophile husband

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OrchidInTheSun · 19/04/2019 12:12

This is sickening: www.nytimes.com/2019/03/06/theater/maddie-corman-accidentally-brave.html

There's another interview in the Times too. All about how awful it's been for her and zero concern for the children who were raped for her husband's sexual pleasure.

Ben Stiller is gushing on twitter.

Grim.

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DeloresJaneUmbridge · 20/04/2019 17:45

Must admit that yesterday when I read the article I said here that I felt sad for her.

Today after having slept on that and considered what I would do in the same position I feel slightly nauseated by her...and it’s a shame as I like Maddie Corman...have followed her since she was a teen actress.

At my most generous I can say she still has a lot of work to do....I suspect she is in some stupid self preservation mode trying to protect the family she thinks she has. It’s not hit her that she no longer has that and didn’t ever have that.

Maybe one day she will wake up and realise what a lie her marriage has always been....and maybe she won’t. I suspect when the children start producing grandchildren and child services get involved (as they will see h8m as a potential risk) she might begin to get an inkling of how much damage this man has inflicted on her and their children...not to mention the children who were abused,

As for him making a documentary about the dangers of pornography ...even yesterday I sneered and thought “wtf”?

Erythronium · 20/04/2019 17:39

It does seem part of the trend to normalise paedophilia - reframing it as a sex addiction and something the man was a victim of rather than him being a perpetrator/predator. We're supposed to feel sympathy for his wife, and, by extension, him.

Non-offending (haven't touched children and don't want to allegedly) paedophiles is another recent invention and this seems to fit in with it. All to make child abusers seem cuddly and non-threatening. It's unbelievably creepy.

nauticant · 20/04/2019 17:09

It's interesting to see that if someone, no matter what they've done or what they're doing, can be framed as stunning and brave™, it causes the woke to default to uncritical support. They won't stop to think about who or what they're supporting, they'll just see stunning and brave™ and fall into line.

This seems to follow the pattern of much progressive thinking: Is the person one of us? If so, all should be forgiven so long as they continue to make the right noises.

Worst case, this kind of robotic thinking is going to bring us the decriminalisation of sex with children. As we can see from the example provided by Maddie Corman and her disgusting husband, it won't be all children and it will only be permitted for certain men.

beebreath · 20/04/2019 16:21

*Mind you saying that I'm still utterly shocked and disappointed he didn't get a custodial sentence!

Wtf are the legal system in New York playing at not dealing with these idiots?!*

Very few who view indecent images of children in UK get custodial sentences so it's not just NYC.

ZebrasAreBras · 20/04/2019 16:12

Really disappointed in Tea Leonie's response to this. I had always quite liked her.

I can barely read this story, as it brings back the memories of this exact thing happening to my friend. This was a man who also swore "he had never harmed a child" - well, 1) I don't know if we can ever be sure of that, and 2) he certainly watched real children being harmed for his sexual kicks.

My friend left him. She did not stand by her man - her 'man' was not the man she had thought he was. She went through hell divorcing him, and extricating herself & her dc from him and his family (who did stand by him).

Hers was the braver choice, in my humble opinion. It is not brave to stand by a man who gets on the abuse of children. It is braver to take your children, and go it alone.

When the police raided her house at 6am one morning, the police liaison told her that about half the wives stand by their husbands in this situation. I was surprised it was so high - I could never even look at a man who had done this.

I doubt my friend will be writing any self-congratulatory "one woman plays" about her own 'bravery' any time soon.

EL8888 · 20/04/2019 16:10

She’s deluded, weak and pathetic! People don’t like a reality check. My partner called out a female friend who married a known paedophile. She didn’t like it and was keen to say “he likes me for me”. He still a sex offender and went to prison though

HaroldsSocalledBluetits · 20/04/2019 16:07

Christ but that is one fucked up article. I agree with everything the rest of you have said but something that jumped out at me were the descriptions of her, variously, being barefoot and sitting cross-legged on a bed. These set her up as some kind of childlike innocent, a flower child questing for truth if you will. Rather than a middle aged woman condoning a paedophile. Also contrasts horrifically with the actual innocent victims, the raped and brutalised children and the horror experienced by families robbed of their children taken so that men like him can sit in air conditioned mansions wanking while their wives write shows about it. It's fucked up, no doubt about it.

HermioneWeasley · 20/04/2019 16:03

Disgusting. These people are appalling and disgusting. The only brave ones are the poor children.

Graphista · 20/04/2019 15:46

Mind you saying that I'm still utterly shocked and disappointed he didn't get a custodial sentence!

Wtf are the legal system in New York playing at not dealing with these idiots?!

Graphista · 20/04/2019 15:44

Considering this is happening in New York why isn't the son of Sam law being applied? I highly doubt his wife profiting from his crime means he isn't benefiting too!

Really appalling to see who is supporting them.

Sarahjconnor · 20/04/2019 15:25

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SpeakUpXXWomen · 20/04/2019 14:46

Profiteering is a pejorative term for the act of making a profit by methods considered unethical.

SpeakUpXXWomen · 20/04/2019 14:44

Paedophile and apologist wife.

Usually found frequenting prison. Since the sexualisation and abuse of children is wrong in every sense and against the law.

Unless ACTORS then they are stunning and brave?

Don't think so. These people are sociopathic.

Poor kids.

BettyDuMonde · 20/04/2019 14:34

Films/books are written about all sorts of horrible crimes, this is true.

It’s not usual for the perpetrator’s family to make a profit from them, however.

Namenic · 20/04/2019 14:31

Human stories are interesting even if they involve people who have done horrible things. I haven’t seen/read the play but i’m Guessing it doesn’t give much from the view of the abused victims.

There are also films about gangsters and murderers who have destroyed many lives. Perhaps they too are unbalanced in terms of their victims’ perspective. Though it doesn’t necessarily mean the stories devoid of value.

BettyDuMonde · 20/04/2019 14:17

Comments on the Mail Online:

‘Great news kids! I stayed married so you could grow up with a pedo in the home!’

‘I could not, under ANY circumstances, continue to live with a man who derives pleasure from watching innocent children be sexually abused by adults.’

‘So she puts on a play about it to propel her fame,make money, and publicize how hard it is for her.Poor her. And she stays so her children can be exposed to that creep. She is terrible as well.’

(Advance warning - Some descriptions of the images in the article text)
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6931529/Actress-reveals-criticism-standing-Law-Order-director-husband-child-porn-arrest.html

Worth remembering next time anyone feels the need to apologise for sharing a DM link - DM readers call people out for profiting from child sexual abuse, while NY Times readers bought tickets.

LassOfFyvie · 20/04/2019 14:17

Téa Leonie is a board member of US UNICEF.

LassOfFyvie · 20/04/2019 14:08

On the Tea Leonie pile of drivel

Grumpy Scottish Wifie@caf_abz
Man watches & shares child porn ie film of children being raped. Wife stays with him, endangering their own kids,thenprofits from those poor abused kids. Absolutely vile. The raped kids are the brave ones, not this paedo apologist

Is Grumpy Scottish Wifie someone from here? I actually hope not as I hope as many people as possible are seeing and condemning this.

BettyDuMonde · 20/04/2019 14:01

Tickets range from 55-100 US dollars.

Looking up charities now, anyone got any ideas?

Preferably something NY based that helps sexually abused/trafficked children (and adult survivors?) worldwide.

(Found one that looks pretty good but is focussed on foreign born adult women trafficked into the US - saving it for future reference: restorenyc.org/services)

LassOfFyvie · 20/04/2019 13:53

To quote the fabulous Monica Dolan on W1A, I'm not trying to be funny or anything..., but how the hell does Tea Leonie and her kind square this support with supporting "#me too"?

I'm assuming, without checking, that Leonie will have tweeted in support of #me too , and no doubt has also bathed in the warm bath of virtue signalling of denouncing Trump for his sexist attitudes and behaviour.

brizzlemint · 20/04/2019 13:50

They are both despicable. Not only is she standing by him but she's cashing in on it as well.

BettyDuMonde · 20/04/2019 13:46

Fucking hell.

Donating all the profits to charities supporting victims of trafficking and childhood sexual abuse is the only thing that might make this shitshow palatable.

I wonder how much it costs and if we can start a campaign to get people to donate the ticket price to a suitable charity?

Her husband wanked off to images of child rape, FFS!

nauticant · 20/04/2019 12:28

Let's be honest, show business is all about supporting people in show business. If they are rapists, paedophiles, whatever, then if they are helping to keep the gravy train on the rails, it doesn't matter so long as they get don't get caught.

It seems that anyone inside the bubble can have their values corrupted so much that they will actually support paedophilia apologists. Without spending a moment thinking about what that means. The thinking seems to stop completely at "do I stand to gain here?"

Have a look at this echo chamber about the performance:

twitter.com/TeaLeoni/status/1113825908752834561

LassOfFyvie · 20/04/2019 11:16

Thanks, StopThePlanet noted.

Betty from what I have read about her there has been a bit of a backlash but rather than giving her pause for thought the backlash is simply more pain for her to be a victim and to be brave about.

BettyDuMonde · 20/04/2019 09:06

I’m amazed that she think that it’s her and her children who are the victims of this crime.

No acknowledgement at all of the sexually abused children in the images her husband ‘enjoyed’, just self pity that she now has to rent because her husband is on the sex offenders register (and presumably no average thinking human one wants him living next door).

Fuck me.

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