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Don’t mis-gender me

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Pixilicious · 17/04/2019 17:54

At work today, having and diversity chat and I got called a cis woman. Thanks to mumsnet I said ‘I reject that term, don’t mis-gender me’. Went down like a lead balloon especially when I followed up with ‘I’m not a sub-set of women, I am a woman, an adult female human’.
Thanks for giving me the confidence to hold my ground.

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 17/04/2019 23:09

Haven’t men always dictated how women are defined?

2BthatUnnoticed · 17/04/2019 22:28

Susanna if people want to identify themselves as cis, that is fine in my view.

It is imposing the label on other people, without their consent, that is wrong.

2BthatUnnoticed · 17/04/2019 22:22

Morecookies many women find cis (short for cisgender) offensive and do not accept that label for a variety of reasons.

Some people view “cis” as a neutral descriptor and are happy to use it or have it applied to them.

OP is in the first category (me too) Smile

Victoriapestis01 · 17/04/2019 22:18

Yes susanna , and as such you are part of the boring subset of women, those who actually are women.

I believe the use of the term is prohibited here, for the good reason that it is thoroughly silly and insulting.

Susanna30 · 17/04/2019 21:50

What is a cis woman?
I get so confused with all this terminology.
I am female (genetically) so am I cis?

Theworldisfullofgs · 17/04/2019 21:46

I hate the cis thing. Why does someone else get to chose what I am called?

BeansandRice · 17/04/2019 21:43

Brilliant! Fantastic work. Star I hope there aren’t any repercussions, though.

SarahTancredi · 17/04/2019 21:37

Good for you!! ✊

MoreCookiesPlease · 17/04/2019 21:35

Could someone please explain this thread to me? No joke. I'm actually confused.

Chocalatecappuccino · 17/04/2019 21:30

Excellent. Well done.

I will be remembering that if anyone ever calls me 'cis'.

PlatypusLeague · 17/04/2019 21:07

Brilliant, well done OP! I doubt I'd have found the words if put on the spot like that.

GaraMedouar · 17/04/2019 21:02

Well done OP. I would only have thought of what to say 30 minutes too late!

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 17/04/2019 20:19

My sister is funny. ‘They’ve invented a new fucking word! Don’t fucking cisc me!’.

She (a lesbian) is only just calming down from when I enlightened her at the end of last year that lesbians who refuse to sleep with ‘male’ lesbians are hideous transphobics who should be whipped naked through the streets.

ReSistingPink · 17/04/2019 20:00

Love this! well done ✊🏻💗

Pixilicious · 17/04/2019 19:27

@assassinated - I don’t think it will cause me any issues but if it does, bring it!
@betty - I hope so, that is a really positive way of thinking. My mantra at the moment is ‘to ignore is to condone’ and I definitely don’t condone it.

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BettyFloop · 17/04/2019 19:20

Excellent! Well done you Star I bet there was someone who heard you say that who thought to themselves 'she's got a point there...' or 'blimey, I'm not on my own...'
Courage calls to courage and all that.

AssassinatedBeauty · 17/04/2019 19:14

Good response. I hope it doesn't cause you any further issues. But it is ridiculous that these sorts of over-woke people can decide your gender identity for you when they wouldn't dream of it for someone they thought was obviously transgender.

KatvonHostileExtremist · 17/04/2019 19:08

Sex is a protected characteristic and they have no right to start sectioning it off.

Well done you ✊✊✊✊

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 17/04/2019 19:08

Nicely played sir (or ma’am of spaghetti monster).

I would have have told them to shove ‘cis’ up their derriere (as I told someone else today on a different topic).

RuffleCrow · 17/04/2019 19:03

Nice one OP! Cis has to stop. Full stop.

NotTerfNorCis · 17/04/2019 19:01

Well done! Very brave.

SlipperyLizard · 17/04/2019 18:57

Good skills!

Redshoeblueshoe · 17/04/2019 18:43

Well done.

EweSurname · 17/04/2019 18:15

Well done OP! Star

Tartyflette · 17/04/2019 18:12

Why should your feelz count for less than anyone else's? You were offended by the term they called you and you told them so.
I'd also use language like 'othering' in situations like this to turn it around on people who say this stuff while fondly imagining they're being so woke.
I really hope more of us do this, and keep on doing it.
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