Dads to be are 2nd class citizens on the labour ward because they don't get offered a cup of tea...

Vending machines on all floors in all hospitals is an excellent idea btw, but selfish people like the man in the op, would still be demanding a nurse go for them, or that they shouldn't have to use such when there's a nurse stood "doing nothing" 10 feet away...

I love the thread. It is fwr in a nutshell. Fifteen pages and counting. The perfect excuse to lay into 'menasaclass', all extrapolated from the behaviour of one self-absorbed knobhead. Bravo ladies, bravo.

Some people will just always have something to complain about I guess, and just don't know when to wind their necks in. Melts. Is a certain poster really going on and on about stuff that happened 30 years ago..? Dear lord.

I wish my ward had a pantry

LCM, oh, do tell us all about your experiences in the pantry, dear.

Sperm donors!

And who are these sperm donors? Presumably men (do correct me if I am wrong). If you hate men why have anything to do with them?

Pantry visitors and what they do in there.

As I said, that was when I was in hospital a couple of weeks ago, not 20 years ago having a baby.

Sperm donors! There's one woman on here who is a lesbian. She is pregnant and the child will have two mums.

Pantry visitors and what they do in there. All sorts. But I'm sure you'll tell us more.

For constantly being near death, LCM has loads of spare faculty for being very observant simultaneously.
Really? What have I observed?

Because scientists haven’t yet developed a way to make babies without them.

Hmm. Nice attitude. If that is really how you feel surely it means that you don't have children?

For constantly being near death, LCM has loads of spare faculty for being very observant simultaneously. Whilst in with DD1 one time, we had a room across from the nurse's station. They were playing Michael Buble one night. Now that crosses the line!

as you all have such a low opinion of men I'm confused as to why you chose to have children with them

Because scientists haven’t yet developed a way to make babies without them.

I've seen that happen, MrsC, then it runs out and they're demanding food. I'm agog at the expectation staff are there to make non-patients hot drinks or make non-patients feel 'welcome'.

But then, any HCP who's worked in maternity can spin your head with tales of 'partners' (and no, they're not all the fathers of the baby) who take the mother's bed and food, stink out and hog the patient bathroom, demand sex/have sex in the ward, take the chairs of other patients, intimidate and harass other patients, all sorts.

All maternity wards should have a 'for male visitors only' tea and coffee menu and staff (women, of course) should bake biscuits on demand, for the men.
Also, foot stools, warm slippers, and cushions for male visitors only.

If only someone looked after them properly and bought them cups of tea.

I think most people are intelligent enough to realise that of course people don't mean all men, all dads etc.

Just like when I'm having a rant about a section of society I obviously don't mean them all.

Makes you wonder how they even made it to adulthood doesnt it.

I know. Those poor, beleaguered men. What trials they face.

It's not NAMALT.

It is a bizarre way of thinking - one man did this therefore all men are like it.

But if one woman does it... No, that's just that 1 woman.

Utterly bizarre.

As I said, as you all have such a low opinion of men I'm confused as to why you chose to have children with them.

Bloody hell 😂

Remember, folks, whatever circumstance you reference, LittleChristmasMouse will be able to pull out the perfect personal experience to show that NAMALT, men are very hard done by, and you're all wrong.

They had to stop providing it as so many dads and visitors saw it as a free buffet for everyone.

So who were the "other visitors" then? Were they only men?

My room in hospital recently was right opposite the pantry. Every day a lady visited with 2 young children. Every day she took them into the pantry (despite big sign on door saying staff only) and let them help themselves to bowls of cereal.

What conclusions shall we draw from that? Can we conclude that all women are...? No. Because that is unreasonable.

Well, this isn't the first time a man has queried why he wasn't more acknowledged in a healthcare setting that is focused on the women who are the patients. There was that prat who felt excluded from his friend's mammogram.

He was Liam Hackett CEO of anti-bullying organisation, 'Ditch The Label'
www.independent.co.uk/news/health/men-ban-breast-screening-clinic-waiting-area-hospital-brighton-anger-a8243666.html

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